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From: Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>
To: Al Stone <al.stone@linaro.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	ACPI Devel Mailing List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [Linaro-acpi] [RFC] ACPI on arm64 TODO List
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:04:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54926052.5000105@jonmasters.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5490D042.3060901@linaro.org>

On 12/16/14, 7:37 PM, Al Stone wrote:
> On 12/16/2014 08:48 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:

>> I am rather concerned about the relationship between items described
>> with _DSD and ACPI's existing device model. Describing the relationship
>> between devices and their input clocks, regulators, and so on defeats
>> much of the benefit ACPI is marketed as providing w.r.t. abstraction of
>> the underlying platform (and as Arnd mentioned above, that's not the
>> kind of platform we want to support with ACPI).
>
> My belief is that all those things should be set up into a known good
> state by UEFI on initial boot.

Correct. There should never be a situation in which any clocks are 
explicitly exposed in the DSDT. Clock state should be set as a side 
effect of calling ACPI methods to transition device state. _DSD is 
intended to implement simple additions to the core spec, such as 
metadata describing the MAC address, interface type, and PHY on a 
network device. But it should never be used to expose clock nets.

I've spoken with nearly everyone building a 64-bit ARM server using ACPI 
and in nearly every case also reviewed their tables. Nobody is going to 
be so foolish on day one. The trick to some of the ongoing 
discussion/planning is to ensure that guidance prevents mistakes later.

Jon.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-18  5:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-16  2:18 [RFC] ACPI on arm64 TODO List Al Stone
2014-12-16 11:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-16 15:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-17  0:03     ` Al Stone
2014-12-17  9:25       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-18  4:57         ` Jon Masters
2014-12-18  9:55           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-17 13:43       ` [Linaro-acpi] " Charles Garcia-Tobin
2014-12-16 15:48   ` Mark Rutland
2014-12-17  0:37     ` Al Stone
2014-12-17  9:08       ` G Gregory
2014-12-17 16:02       ` Mark Rutland
2014-12-17 16:52         ` Hurwitz, Sherry
2014-12-17 18:14       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-12-18  5:04       ` Jon Masters [this message]
2014-12-18 14:36         ` Jon Masters
2014-12-16 22:55   ` Al Stone
2014-12-17 17:31     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-17 22:26   ` Grant Likely
2015-01-10 14:44     ` Grant Likely
2015-01-12 10:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 12:00         ` Grant Likely
2015-01-12 19:40           ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-13 17:22             ` Grant Likely
2015-01-14  0:26               ` Al Stone
2015-01-15  4:07                 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 17:15                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-15 17:19                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 14:23       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-12 14:41         ` Grant Likely
2015-01-12 19:39           ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-12 19:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-13 14:12             ` Grant Likely
2015-01-14  1:21             ` Al Stone
2015-01-15 17:45               ` [Linaro-acpi] " Linda Knippers
2015-01-13 17:02         ` Grant Likely
2015-01-05 20:52 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-06 11:53   ` Catalin Marinas

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