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From: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Tang Chen <imtangchen@gmail.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Moore, Robert" <robert.moore@intel.com>,
	"Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@huawei.com>,
	Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Yasuaki Ishimatsu <isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Taku Izumi <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	"mina86@mina86.com" <mina86@mina86.com>,
	"gong.chen@linux.intel.com" <gong.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
	"lwoodman@redhat.com" <lwoodman@red>
Subject: Re: [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE.
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:34:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAE9FiQVAsHLRCcrtFLqgifAJ6jfbDK7y_OFGUDArSWPKk+2qnQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F31CBD145@ORSMSX106.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Luck, Tony <tony.luck@intel.com> wrote:
>> That is what my patchset want to do.
>> put page tables on the same node like node data.
>> with that, hotplug and normal case will be the same code path.
>
> Page tables are a big issue if we have 4K mappings (8 byte entry per
> 4K page means 2MB of page tables per GB of memory) ... but only
> used for DEBUG cases, right?

yes.

>
> If we use 2M mappings, then allocations are 512x smaller - so only
> 4K per GB - hard to justify spreading that across nodes.
>
> If we can use 1GB mappings - then another 512x reduction to 8 bytes per GB (or 8KB per TB)

Yes. 4k for 512G.

Just make all cases use same code path even for DEBUG_PAGEALLOC with 4k page
mapping.

>
> Aren't page structures a bigger issue?  ~64 bytes per 4K page.  Do we
> make sure these get allocated from the NUMA node that they describe?
> This should not hurt the ZONE_MOVEABLE-ness of this - although they are
> kernel structures they can be freed when the node is removed (at that point
> they describe memory that is no longer present). From a scalability perspective
> we don't want to run node0 low on memory by using it for every other node.
> From a NUMA perspective we want the page_t that describes a page to be
> in the same locality as the page itself.

yes, that is vmemmap, and it is already numa aware.

Thanks

Yinghai

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-15 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-08 10:16 [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 1/7] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Tang Chen
2013-08-12 14:39   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 15:12     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 2/7] x86, numa, mem_hotplug: Skip all the regions the kernel resides in Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 3/7] memblock, numa: Introduce flag into memblock Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 4/7] memblock, mem_hotplug: Introduce MEMBLOCK_HOTPLUG flag to mark hotpluggable regions Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 5/7] memblock, mem_hotplug: Make memblock skip hotpluggable regions by default Tang Chen
2013-08-14 21:54   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-08-15  5:15     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 6/7] mem-hotplug: Introduce movablenode boot option to {en|dis}able using SRAT Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 7/7] x86, numa, acpi, memory-hotplug: Make movablenode have higher priority Tang Chen
2013-08-09 16:32 ` [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Tejun Heo
2013-08-12  6:33   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12  8:54   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 14:50 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 15:14   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 15:23     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 16:29       ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 16:46         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 18:23           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 20:20             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 20:49               ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 20:54                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 20:57                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:06                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-12 21:08                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 21:12                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:14                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 21:11                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:11                   ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 21:25                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-12 21:28                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13  5:14                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13  6:14           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-13  9:56             ` Tang Chen
2013-08-13 14:38               ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-13 22:33               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-14  1:22                 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 19:06                   ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-15 20:28                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-16  2:08                       ` Tang Chen
2013-08-16  4:21                         ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-19  3:07                           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-19  3:28                             ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15  8:42                 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 12:19                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 12:44                     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 12:49                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 12:52                         ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 14:37                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 14:45                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 15:05                           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 15:10                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 19:49                               ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-15 19:08                             ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-15 19:34                               ` Yinghai Lu [this message]
2013-08-15 14:35                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-16  1:16                     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 15:41   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 15:46     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 16:19       ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 16:22         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 17:01           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 17:23             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 18:22               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-12 18:07             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 18:15               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 18:23                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 19:40                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 19:55                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 20:29                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 20:30                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 20:35                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 21:17                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 21:36                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:08                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15  1:21                                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:33                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:44                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15  2:22                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:38                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15  1:51                                     ` Tejun Heo

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