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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: <will@kernel.org>, <joro@8bytes.org>, <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	<jgg@nvidia.com>, <rafael@kernel.org>, <lenb@kernel.org>,
	<praan@google.com>, <kees@kernel.org>, <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	<smostafa@google.com>, <Alexander.Grest@microsoft.com>,
	<kevin.tian@intel.com>, <miko.lenczewski@arm.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>, <vsethi@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Recover ATC invalidate timeouts
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 13:06:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aanwTQtMMplXY3du@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5ff7a43-ea52-462d-a316-d3a6c08410e0@arm.com>

On Thu, Mar 05, 2026 at 03:24:30PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2026-03-05 5:21 am, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > Though it'd be ideal to block it immediately in the ISR, it cannot be done
> > because an STE update would require another CFIG_STE command that couldn't
> > finish in the context of an ISR handling a CMDQ error.
> 
> Why not? As soon as we've acked GERRORN.CMDQ_ERR, command consumption will
> resume and we're free to do whatever we fancy. Admittedly this probably
> represents more work than we *want* to be doing in the SMMU's IRQ handler
> (arguably even in a thread, since all the PCI housekeeping isn't really the
> SMMU driver's own problem), but I would say the workqueue is a definite
> design choice, not a functional requirement.

Hmm, you are right, after writel(gerror, ARM_SMMU_GERRORN), it
would be doable.

Though SID->pdev conversion requires streams_mutex, which can't
happen in ISR?

> > +static void arm_smmu_atc_recovery_worker(struct work_struct *work)
> > +{
> > +	struct arm_smmu_atc_recovery_param *param =
> > +		container_of(work, struct arm_smmu_atc_recovery_param, work);
> > +	struct pci_dev *pdev;
> > +
> > +	scoped_guard(mutex, &param->smmu->streams_mutex) {
> > +		struct arm_smmu_master *master;
> > +
> > +		master = arm_smmu_find_master(param->smmu, param->sid);
> 
> The only thing SMMU-specific about this seems to be the use of
> arm_smmu_find_master() to resolve the device, which could just as well be
> done upon submission anyway - why isn't this a generic IOMMU/IOPF mechanism?

You mean treating this as a page fault? That's an interesting idea.

So, the IOMMU-level fence could be done in arm_smmu_page_response().

> > +static int arm_smmu_sched_atc_recovery(struct arm_smmu_device *smmu, u32 sid)
> > +{
> > +	struct arm_smmu_atc_recovery_param *param;
> > +
> > +	param = kzalloc_obj(*param, GFP_ATOMIC);
> > +	if (!param)
> > +		return -ENOMEM;
> > +	param->smmu = smmu;
> > +	param->sid = sid;
> > +
> > +	INIT_WORK(&param->work, arm_smmu_atc_recovery_worker);
> > +	queue_work(system_unbound_wq, &param->work);
> 
> Might it make more sense to have a single work item associated with the
> list_head and use the latter as an actual queue, such that the work runs
> until the list is empty, then here at submisison time we do the list_add()
> and schedule_work()? That could perhaps even be a global queue, since ATS
> timeouts can hardly be expected to be a highly-contended high-perfoamnce
> concern.

That sounds like the IOPF implementation. Maybe inventing another
IOMMU_FAULT_ATC_TIMEOUT to reuse the existing infrastructure would
make things cleaner.

> Right now it seems the list is barely doing anything - a "deduplication"
> mechanism that only works if multiple resets for the same device happen to
> have their work scheduled concurrently seems pretty ineffective.

From my testing results, it does effectively block duplications, so
I think it's somehow meaningful.

If I wasn't wrong, the duplicated ATC timeout might come from this
exact reset thread, as it did a CMDQ_OP_CFGI_STE while the CONS was
still pointing to previous CMDQ_OP_ATC_INV.

IIUIC, the IOPF queue doesn't expect duplicated PRI events. So, it
might invoke the handler twice if there is a duplication. The core
handling list_add() might need a deduplication.

> > @@ -456,6 +555,27 @@ void __arm_smmu_cmdq_skip_err(struct arm_smmu_device *smmu,
> >   	 * not to touch any of the shadow cmdq state.
> >   	 */
> >   	queue_read(cmd, Q_ENT(q, cons), q->ent_dwords);
> > +
> > +	if (idx == CMDQ_ERR_CERROR_ATC_INV_IDX) {
> > +		/*
> > +		 * Since commands can be issued in batch making it difficult to
> > +		 * identify which CMDQ_OP_ATC_INV actually timed out, the driver
> > +		 * must ensure only CMDQ_OP_ATC_INV commands for the same device
> > +		 * can be batched.
> 
> But this *is* "the driver" - arm_smmu_atc_inv_domain() is literally further
> down this same C file, and does not do what this comment is saying it must
> do, so how are you expecting this to work correctly?

Oh, that's a big miss..

I imaged these changes to be based on the arm_smmu_invs series,
where it could break the ATC in the batching function. Here, it
should have made some change to arm_smmu_atc_inv_domain().

Thanks
Nicolin

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-05 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-05  5:21 [PATCH v1 0/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Reset PCI device upon ATC invalidate timeout Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05  5:21 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] iommu: Do not call pci_dev_reset_iommu_done() unless reset succeeds Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05  5:21 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Recover ATC invalidate timeouts Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 15:15   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-05 15:24   ` Robin Murphy
2026-03-05 21:06     ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2026-03-05 23:30       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 23:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 15:24         ` Robin Murphy
2026-03-06 15:56           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-10 19:34             ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-05 15:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-05 21:15     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 23:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06  1:29         ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06  1:33           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06  5:06             ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 13:02               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:20                 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 19:22                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:39                     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 19:47                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-10 19:40                 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-10 19:57                   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-10 20:04                     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-06 13:22         ` Robin Murphy
2026-03-06 14:01           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 20:18             ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 20:22               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 20:34                 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06  3:22     ` Baolu Lu
2026-03-06 13:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:35         ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-06 19:43           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:59             ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-06 20:03               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 20:22                 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-06 20:26                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-10 20:00                     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-11 12:12                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06  2:35   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-10 19:16   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-10 19:51     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-10 20:00       ` Pranjal Shrivastava

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