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From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hal@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] toshiba_acpi: Add full hotkey support
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:11:56 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903091307200.16491@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15e53e180903080033h5e990f08o3622afae018c38ca@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Richard Hughes wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 08:19:51PM +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
> >
> >> Mapping KEY_SUSPEND to hibernate is just insane. Can you please change
> >> the toshiba driver to use KEY_HIBERNATE and KEY_SUSPEND as thinkpad
> >> now does? Thanks.
> >
> > Mapping KEY_SUSPEND to hibernate is what we've been doing for years.
> > It's what hal *still does*.
> 
> Sure, but how much userspace now listens to HAL for these events? Xorg
> and evdev has taken over that role for all the session. We can ship a
> trivial patch as an fdi file to HAL to remap this if required.
> 
> > KEY_SLEEP has been the suspend to RAM key forever.
> 
> Except if you're a USB keyboard. Grep through the kernel sources and
> see how many drivers get this wrong. We can't map three sleep states
> to two buttons in any sane way. For instance, is the sleep acpi button
> supposed to trigger a suspend of hibernate? Surely this is user policy
> as it is not specified on the the exterior of the machine.

While hot-keys are totally platform dependent and non-standard,
the ACPI spec does describe the power and sleep button.

Unfortunately, it doesn't answer this question for us --
stating that the sleep button enters G1, which can be
any of S1-S4.

Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center

      parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-09 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-06  0:39 [PATCH] toshiba_acpi: Add full hotkey support Matthew Garrett
2009-03-06  0:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-06  9:08   ` Richard Hughes
2009-03-06  9:47     ` Daniel Silverstone
2009-03-06  9:56       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-06 10:04         ` Daniel Silverstone
2009-03-06 10:09           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-06 10:12             ` Daniel Silverstone
2009-03-06 10:15               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-06 10:21                 ` Daniel Silverstone
2009-03-06 18:49                   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2009-03-06 18:53                     ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-06 18:37   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2009-03-06 18:44     ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-06 18:57       ` Andrey Borzenkov
2009-03-07  7:27   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2009-03-07 15:06     ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-07 15:38       ` Andrey Borzenkov
2009-03-07 15:44         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-07 20:19           ` Richard Hughes
2009-03-07 20:26             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-08  8:33               ` Richard Hughes
2009-03-08 14:29                 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2009-03-08 14:36                 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-09 17:11                 ` Len Brown [this message]

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