From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Len Brown Subject: Re: experimental patch for toshiba_acpi Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <20090225152409.GA4015@srcf.ucam.org> <1235578705.4770.57.camel@penguin.lifesci.dundee.ac.uk> <20090225165152.GA5981@srcf.ucam.org> <1235657022.3802.86.camel@hughsie-work.lan> <1235663518.4770.197.camel@penguin.lifesci.dundee.ac.uk> <1235753349.5444.53.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090228151933.GC17541@khazad-dum.debian.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.17]:63777 "EHLO vms173017pub.verizon.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750843AbZCMBRY (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:17:24 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([96.237.168.40]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KGF002K47KIP365@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:17:12 -0500 (CDT) In-reply-to: <20090228151933.GC17541@khazad-dum.debian.net> Sender: linux-acpi-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh Cc: Richard Hughes , Jonathan Buzzard , John Belmonte , Matthew Garrett , Charles@schwieters.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org I acknowledge that the SMM control method doesn't fit well into our current generic software abstractions for controlling hardware. I also acknowledge that this control has a right to exist if people find it useful. Further, I don't by the fact that it root can use it to brick a system as sufficient reason not to provide it. Root can already do worse... However, I'm not excited about extending toshiba_acpi to include /dev/toshiba SMM interface that is already provided by the toshiba driver. I'd rather see the 'toshiba' driver (perhaps renamed to be toshiba_smm) extended so that it is the only driver to provide this interface. BTW. I notice that both toshiba_acpi and toshiba ship in Fedora and can load on my satellite pro. However, fedora doesn't ship toshset -- is toshiba and /dev/toshiba useful without it? Are new machines still using this interface, or it is going away over time? thanks, -Len