public inbox for linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [git pull request] ACPI Processor Aggregator Driver for 2.6.32-rc1
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:17:56 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0910051805500.32307@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200910052351.53207.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

> On Monday 05 October 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > 
> > > This thing has already been merged, it appears: and it looks like a 
> > > total breakage of rules to me.
> > 
> > Well, Len pointed out to me that the NAK is kind of pointless, since it 
> > had no constructive alternatives to the issue. So he left it in as 
> > documentation, but until the scheduler people can actually _do_ something 
> > about the problem, their voice doesn't really matter, does it?
> 
> Well, for a patch that was objected to so strongly, I think it didn't get
> enough review from other relevant people before being pushed upstream.

Originally we proposed various "cute" scheduler tricks to solve this 
problem.  Peter objected strongly to all of them.

So the patch evolved into something quite simple that
doesn't touch the scheduler at all.  However, Peter's
objection to the concept never went away.

> It looks like Balbir didn't see it before for one example.

Surprising, since Balbir is presumably in the same group
as Vaidy at IBM, who is well informed on this topic
and this thread.

> It's been lots of time since the patch was originally posted to send it to
> the LKML for discussion and so on and to receive some comments that
> might help to improve it.

There was no more actionable feedback on the patch.
The latest version was checked in in July, and has
been waiting for the 2.6.32 merge window ever since.

I don't claim that any code in Linux is either
perfect or permanent, but I think this driver is
useful and thus deserved to be upstream where it
can be useful to the widest group of customers.

I'll be happy to have it re-written three times
if Linux evolved to supply more sophisticated
features to handle this situation.

> I have no idea why that wasn't done and I suspect
> there was some corporate pressure on Len to push it upstream as quickly as
> possible.

The driver has simply been waiting for the Linux merge window.

cheers,
-Len


  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-05 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-03  5:56 [git pull request] ACPI Processor Aggregator Driver for 2.6.32-rc1 Len Brown
2009-10-03 20:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-05  3:32 ` Balbir Singh
2009-10-05  5:33   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-10-05  7:15     ` Balbir Singh
2009-10-05 19:59   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-05 20:33     ` Balbir Singh
2009-10-05 20:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-05 21:51       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-05 22:17         ` Len Brown [this message]
2009-10-05 21:04     ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-05 22:20       ` Len Brown
2009-10-05 22:40         ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-05 23:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06  1:28             ` Len Brown
2009-10-06  9:16               ` Balbir Singh

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=alpine.LFD.2.00.0910051805500.32307@localhost.localdomain \
    --to=lenb@kernel.org \
    --cc=a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=rjw@sisk.pl \
    --cc=shaohua.li@intel.com \
    --cc=svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox