From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Async suspend-resume patch w/ completions (was: Re: Async suspend-resume patch w/ rwsems)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:31:35 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912150726510.14385@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200912151214.10980.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>
> What fact? The only thing that matters is USB? For resume, it is. For
> suspend, it clearly isn't.
For suspend, the only other case we've seen has been the keyboard and
mouse controller, which has exactly the same "we can special case it with
a single 'let's do _this_ device asynchronously'". Again, it may not be
pretty, but it sure is simple.
Much simpler than talking about some generic infrastructure changes and
about doing "let's do leaves of the tree separately" schemes.
And that's why I'm _soo_ unhappy with you, and am insulting you. Because
you keep on making the same mistake over and over - overdesigning.
Overdesigning is a SIN. It's the archetypal example of what I call "bad
taste". I get really upset when a subsystem maintainer starts
overdesigning things.
Linus
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Thread overview: 234+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-05 21:16 [GIT PULL] PM updates for 2.6.33 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-05 21:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-05 21:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-05 23:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-06 0:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-06 1:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-06 1:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-06 8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-06 0:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-06 1:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-06 1:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-06 2:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-06 2:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-06 15:23 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-06 19:04 ` [linux-pm] " Victor Lowther
2009-12-07 3:57 ` Zhang Rui
2009-12-07 5:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 6:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-17 23:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-12-07 6:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-07 15:13 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-07 16:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 17:52 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-07 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 20:37 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-07 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 21:32 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-07 21:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 21:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-07 22:01 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-07 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 22:21 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-07 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 23:16 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-07 22:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-07 22:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 23:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-08 3:27 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 12:23 ` Async resume patch (was: Re: [GIT PULL] PM updates for 2.6.33) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-08 12:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-08 15:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-08 15:55 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 16:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-08 18:08 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 18:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-08 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-08 19:34 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 19:30 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-08 21:32 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 21:52 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-12-08 22:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-09 19:06 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-09 21:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-08 19:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-08 20:16 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-08 20:44 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 20:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-08 21:40 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 21:48 ` spinlock in completion_done() (was: Re: Async resume patch (was: Re: [GIT PULL] PM updates for 2.6.33)) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-09 9:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-09 22:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-10 7:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-11 4:10 ` Dave Chinner
2009-12-11 7:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-12 23:07 ` [PATCH] sched: Make wakeup side variants of completion API irq safe (was: Re: spinlock in completion_done()) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-08 22:18 ` Async resume patch (was: Re: [GIT PULL] PM updates for 2.6.33) Linus Torvalds
2009-12-09 2:11 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-08 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-08 22:07 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-09 2:23 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-09 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-09 22:27 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-08 22:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-09 2:35 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-09 2:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-09 15:24 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-09 15:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-09 15:57 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-25 17:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-09 13:38 ` Mark Brown
2009-12-09 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-09 16:02 ` Mark Brown
2009-12-09 16:23 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-09 16:46 ` Mark Brown
2009-12-09 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-09 17:45 ` Mark Brown
2009-12-09 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-09 18:27 ` Mark Brown
2009-12-09 17:10 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-09 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-09 18:08 ` Mark Brown
2009-12-08 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-08 21:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-08 22:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-08 22:55 ` Async suspend-resume patch w/ rwsems " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-08 23:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-09 20:15 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-09 22:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-09 22:38 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-09 23:18 ` Async suspend-resume patch w/ completions (was: Re: Async suspend-resume patch w/ rwsems) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-10 2:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 19:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-10 23:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 1:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-11 1:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 3:42 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-11 22:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-12 0:38 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-11 22:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-11 22:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 23:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-11 23:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-12 17:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-12 18:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-12 22:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-12 22:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-14 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-14 22:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-14 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-14 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-14 23:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-15 0:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-15 0:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-15 11:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-15 15:31 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-12-15 11:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-15 15:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-15 15:55 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-15 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-15 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-15 20:26 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-15 21:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-15 22:01 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-15 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-15 22:27 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-16 2:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-16 6:40 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-18 22:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-19 19:59 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-19 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-19 22:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-19 22:43 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-19 22:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-19 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-19 23:22 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-19 23:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-19 23:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-19 23:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-19 23:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-19 23:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-19 23:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-19 23:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-20 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-20 0:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-20 2:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-20 19:25 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-21 7:39 ` [linux-pm] Async suspend-resume patch w/ completions (was: Re: Async?suspend-resume " Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-21 11:20 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2009-12-20 2:45 ` Async suspend-resume patch w/ completions (was: Re: Async suspend-resume " Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-20 3:59 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-20 12:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-20 17:12 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-20 18:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-20 19:38 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-20 19:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-16 15:22 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-16 19:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-16 15:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-16 19:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-16 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-16 21:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-16 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-16 22:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-16 23:04 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-16 23:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-17 1:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-17 1:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-17 20:06 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-17 20:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-18 1:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-18 17:26 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-19 21:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-20 3:48 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-20 12:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-18 23:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-13 13:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-13 17:30 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-13 19:02 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-12-12 0:43 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-12 17:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-10 15:31 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-10 15:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 18:37 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-10 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-10 22:17 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-10 23:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-07 15:15 ` [GIT PULL] PM updates for 2.6.33 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-07 16:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 20:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-07 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 5:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-07 15:42 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-06 19:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-06 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-06 20:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-06 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-06 22:54 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-07 0:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-07 2:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-07 5:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-07 6:00 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-21 9:01 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-07 1:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-07 2:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-07 5:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-07 6:15 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-07 6:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-07 6:32 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-07 15:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-06 20:36 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-06 21:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-06 21:46 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-06 21:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-06 22:04 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-06 0:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-06 0:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-06 1:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-06 1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
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