From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] string: Add strprefix(), and deprecate str_has_prefix()
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 23:25:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <auz79Izf6Q5qOQPi@devuan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjD-fQvBvozu7+TjXa4=arAFgVzyixw4W_A=14Y8rhSLA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Linus,
> Date: 2026-11-05 13:48:18-0800
> From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
>
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2026 at 13:24, Alejandro Colomar
> <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > I think it might indeed be that find(1) is slow at filtering, because
> > using git-ls-files(1) is faster without piping to grep(1):
>
> No. Your find | grep" speedup is because you use two cores for this.
> So it's slower, but does it in parallel, which is faster on a machine
> with idle cores.
>
> The reason git ls-files is faster is different: it's because git
> ls-files is just that fast.
>
> And it's so fast that now the pipe overhead is much much more
> expensive than git itself, and so doing "git ls-files | grep" is
> slower and only adds overhead even if you have idle cores.
>
> And the reason git ls-files is so fast is because it doesn't do any
> directory searches. It just looks at the git index file.
>
> So git ls-files really does something very different from 'find'. It
> just looks at the files that git already knows about, and it basically
> only opens '.git/index' and parses it.
Oh, thanks! That makes sense.
[...]
>
> Anyway, if you search sources and don't want to care about object
> files or other generated files etc, I'd heavily suggest using "git
> ls-files" and "git grep" exactly because it's much faster.
Indeed, git-ls-files(1) seems more appropriate than find(1), especially
after having built a kernel, which makes find(1) go turtle-slow and list
the built stuff.
> (Ok, "git grep" isn't always faster, the whole regex algorithm issue
> can go both ways, but 'git grep' does do the same "just look at files
> that are actually known to git" thing, and obviously it can look at
> different revisions etc too, so it's really *good* at greapping the
> actual committed history, although if you go back in history you'll
> obviously be paying a much higher price because now the cost is often
> not the regex, but the unpacking of the objects etc)
I'm not a fan of git-grep(1), because it's easier to remember grep(1),
as I already need to remember it for other stuff.
But yeah, a pipe `git ls-files | xargs grep ...` seems what I'd be
using. After all, the slow thing is find(1), not grep(1). And I like
the separation of concerns, so that one program is listing files, and
another one is searching their contents.
I'm finding some issues with git-ls-files(1), though: it's listing
symlinks, which grep(1) complains about. I wish I could discard those
with something like '-type f'.
$ time git ls-files | xargs grep ARRAY_SIZE | wc -l
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/arc: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/arm: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/arm64: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/dt-bindings: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/microblaze: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/mips: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/nios2: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/openrisc: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/powerpc: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/riscv: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/sh: Is a directory
grep: scripts/dtc/include-prefixes/xtensa: Is a directory
grep: tools/testing/selftests/devices/probe/boards/Dell: No such file or directory
grep: Inc.,XPS: No such file or directory
grep: 13: No such file or directory
grep: 9300.yaml: No such file or directory
60570
real 0m0.819s
user 0m0.439s
sys 0m0.430s
$ time git grep ARRAY_SIZE | wc -l
60568
real 0m0.308s
user 0m0.443s
sys 0m1.172s
When searching in old versions, I usually am git-blame(1)ing stuff, so
I already know which file to list. In that case, I tend to do
`git show v6.0:some/file.c | grep something`.
Have a lovely night!
Alex
>
> Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-05 22:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-05 11:12 [PATCH v1 0/2] Add strprefix() and fix a bug with it Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] string: Add strprefix(), and deprecate str_has_prefix() Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 11:27 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 12:28 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 16:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-11-05 16:33 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 16:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-11-05 17:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 18:08 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 18:12 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 21:24 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-11-05 22:25 ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2026-11-05 23:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-11-05 11:13 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] device property: Fix fwnode_name_eq() for empty node names Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 11:24 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] Add strprefix() and fix a bug with it Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 11:38 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 11:59 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 12:30 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-11-05 12:49 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 12:46 ` [PATCH v2 " Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 12:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] string: Add strprefix(), and deprecate str_has_prefix() Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 12:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-11-05 13:12 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 12:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] device property: Fix fwnode_name_eq() for empty node names Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Add strprefix() and fix a bug with it Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-11-05 14:16 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 14:42 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-05 15:06 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 15:00 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-11-05 15:14 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-05 15:21 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05 16:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-11-05 16:30 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-11-05 16:42 ` Alejandro Colomar
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