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From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
To: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Hans de Goede" <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Len Brown" <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"Maximilian Luz" <luzmaximilian@gmail.com>,
	"Lee Chun-Yi" <jlee@suse.com>,
	"Shyam Sundar S K" <Shyam-sundar.S-k@amd.com>,
	"Corentin Chary" <corentin.chary@gmail.com>,
	"Luke D . Jones" <luke@ljones.dev>,
	"Ike Panhc" <ike.pan@canonical.com>,
	"Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	"Alexis Belmonte" <alexbelm48@gmail.com>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Ai Chao" <aichao@kylinos.cn>, "Gergo Koteles" <soyer@irl.hu>,
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	<ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"Mark Pearson" <mpearson-lenovo@squebb.ca>,
	"Matthew Schwartz" <matthew.schwartz@linux.dev>,
	"Armin Wolf" <W_Armin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 18/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Check all profile handler to calculate next
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 09:35:53 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb5d824f-a146-402a-b489-0d777f267677@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3a7ece2-c49c-5c5a-c53b-99acc10f68fc@linux.intel.com>

On 12/5/2024 09:22, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2024, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> 
>> On 12/5/2024 08:22, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
>>> On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>>
>>>> As multiple platform profile handlers might not all support the same
>>>> profile, cycling to the next profile could have a different result
>>>> depending on what handler are registered.
>>>>
>>>> Check what is active and supported by all handlers to decide what
>>>> to do.
>>>>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>
>>>> Tested-by: Mark Pearson <mpearson-lenovo@squebb.ca>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Mark Pearson <mpearson-lenovo@squebb.ca>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    drivers/acpi/platform_profile.c | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++---------
>>>>    1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/platform_profile.c
>>>> b/drivers/acpi/platform_profile.c
>>>> index d5f0679d59d50..16746d9b9aa7c 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/platform_profile.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/platform_profile.c
>>>> @@ -407,25 +407,37 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(platform_profile_notify);
>>>>      int platform_profile_cycle(void)
>>>>    {
>>>> -	enum platform_profile_option profile;
>>>> -	enum platform_profile_option next;
>>>> +	enum platform_profile_option next = PLATFORM_PROFILE_LAST;
>>>> +	enum platform_profile_option profile = PLATFORM_PROFILE_LAST;
>>>> +	unsigned long choices[BITS_TO_LONGS(PLATFORM_PROFILE_LAST)];
>>>>    	int err;
>>>>    +	set_bit(PLATFORM_PROFILE_LAST, choices);
>>>>    	scoped_cond_guard(mutex_intr, return -ERESTARTSYS, &profile_lock) {
>>>> -		if (!cur_profile)
>>>> -			return -ENODEV;
>>>> +		err = class_for_each_device(&platform_profile_class, NULL,
>>>> +					    &profile, _aggregate_profiles);
>>>> +		if (err)
>>>> +			return err;
>>>>    -		err = cur_profile->profile_get(cur_profile, &profile);
>>>> +		if (profile == PLATFORM_PROFILE_CUSTOM ||
>>>> +		    profile == PLATFORM_PROFILE_LAST)
>>>> +			return -EINVAL;
>>>> +
>>>> +		err = class_for_each_device(&platform_profile_class, NULL,
>>>> +					    choices, _aggregate_choices);
>>>>    		if (err)
>>>>    			return err;
>>>>    -		next = find_next_bit_wrap(cur_profile->choices,
>>>> PLATFORM_PROFILE_LAST,
>>>> +		/* never iterate into a custom if all drivers supported it */
>>>> +		clear_bit(PLATFORM_PROFILE_CUSTOM, choices);
>>>
>>> I'm confused by the comment. I was under impression the custom "profile"
>>> is just a framework construct when the _framework_ couldn't find a
>>> consistent profile? How can a driver decide to "support it"? It sounds
>>> like a driver overstepping its intended domain of operation.
>>>
>>> If the intention really is for the driver to "support" or "not support"
>>> custom profile, then you should adjust the commit message of the patch
>>> which introduced it.
>>>
>>
>> Yes I had envisioned that a driver could potentially set custom as well.
>>
>> This idea was introduced by my RFC series that precluded doing the
>> multiple driver handlers.
>>
>> The basic idea is that some drivers (for example asus-wmi and asus-armoury)
>> have the ability for the user to change a sysfs file that represents sPPT or
>> fPPT directly.
> 
> I recall that series.
>   
>> If this has been done they're "off the beating path" of a predfined
>> profile because they're picking and choosing individual knobs.
> 
> The user would still not set it to "custom" nor driver "support" it,
> right? But it's a consequence of tuning those other knobs? Or do you mean
> user would first have to set "custom" and tuning the knobs is blocked
> otherwise?

I think the driver would have to "support" it.  But in terms of a user 
having to set "custom" and blocking the knobs until they do I think we 
can go back and forth on. I don't feel strongly on how the semantics 
would work.

> 
>> So if a user touches those a driver could set profile as "custom" and if a
>> user chooses the platform profile the driver will override all of those and
>> report a pre-defined profile.
>>
>> So, yes I had that all in my mind but as you point out I definitely forgot to
>> mention it in the commit messages.
>>
>> Do you agree with it?  If so, I'll amend the next version where applicable
>> (probably the patch that introduces custom and the documentation patch).
> 
> I'm a little worried about overloading the meaning from mere profile
> disagreement to truly off the charted waters travel. Albeit, I suppose
> that overloading is just between global "custom" vs per-driver "custom",
> the latter would never be "custom" in case of mere profile disagreement,
> if I've understood everything correctly?
> 

I personally see both as the same.  I think we're in agreement on 
multi-driver handler and why custom makes sense.

But think about the common case of "one driver handler".  For the 
purpose of this conversation let's say it's a system that supports 
asus-armory and not amd-pmf and that asus-armory supports "custom".

If the user enabled custom ('either' directly or by writing a file that 
set it) I think it's best that the "global" platform profile advertises 
it too.

Specifically I think about how it translates over into the power slider 
in GNOME/KDE.  I don't think it's right this slider should show 
power-saver if someone manually tuned sPPT up to a giant value.

However if the global platform profile advertises "custom", then the 
slider behavior could show an overlay string for "custom", "undefined", 
a "!" or something like that.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-05 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-02  5:50 [PATCH v9 00/22] Add support for binding ACPI platform profile to multiple drivers Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 01/22] ACPI: platform-profile: Add a name member to handlers Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 02/22] platform/x86/dell: dell-pc: Create platform device Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 03/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Add device pointer into platform profile handler Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 04/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Add platform handler argument to platform_profile_remove() Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 05/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Pass the profile handler into platform_profile_notify() Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 06/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Move sanity check out of the mutex Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 07/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Move matching string for new profile out of mutex Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 08/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Use guard(mutex) for register/unregister Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 09/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Use `scoped_cond_guard` Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 10/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Create class for ACPI platform profile Mario Limonciello
2024-12-04 13:41   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 11/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Add name attribute to class interface Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 12/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Add choices attribute for " Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 13/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Add profile " Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 11:40   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 14/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Notify change events on register and unregister Mario Limonciello
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 15/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Only show profiles common for all handlers Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 11:47   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 16/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Add concept of a "custom" profile Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 11:50   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 17/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Make sure all profile handlers agree on profile Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 12:07   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 18/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Check all profile handler to calculate next Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 14:22   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-05 14:46     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 15:22       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-05 15:35         ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 19/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Notify class device from platform_profile_notify() Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 14:24   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 20/22] ACPI: platform_profile: Allow multiple handlers Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 14:27   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 21/22] platform/x86/amd: pmf: Drop all quirks Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 14:30   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-02  5:50 ` [PATCH v9 22/22] Documentation: Add documentation about class interface for platform profiles Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 14:33   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-02 14:31 ` [PATCH v9 00/22] Add support for binding ACPI platform profile to multiple drivers Armin Wolf

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