Hosting: Estimating Bandwidth uses?

Hosting: Estimating Bandwidth uses?

[David Jackson]

First the question,how can I estimate bandwith being used on virtual hosting sites? 

Now the sorid details: 
During the recent forest fires here in Colorado(US), 
A local website which ran a blog,and chat group 
to keep local residents update, was getting 500,000 
"pageviews" per day. The web sites owner problem is he's being  billed for pageview over certain limit? 
His hosting company only provides pageviews, now bandwith used? 

My comment was "most" webhost offer a base andwitdth usealy between 3-5 Gb/mo as a starting point. 

I might as well as be talking to a brickwall? 
He wants a site with "unlimited" pageviews? 
Back to my question, is their some why to estimate 
bandwidth using web access logs for intance? Or 
if the average page size was 1mb and he 500,000 on 
a single would 500,000 mb of bandwidth be a good 
estimate? 


TIH,
David

Re: Hosting: Estimating Bandwidth uses?

[James]

On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 12:57:46PM -0600, David Jackson wrote:
| 
| I might as well as be talking to a brickwall? 
| He wants a site with "unlimited" pageviews? 
| Back to my question, is their some why to estimate 
| bandwidth using web access logs for intance? Or 
| if the average page size was 1mb and he 500,000 on 
| a single would 500,000 mb of bandwidth be a good 
| estimate? 
| 

If the site runs Apache (maybe others too) and you have access to the
webserver's logs (ask the ISP nicely, they might let you have yours.
Mine does...), then run Analog on them. You'll get more stats than you
know what to do with.

http://www.analog.cx/

-- 
The truth is not out there  
 
6AD6 865A BF6E 76BB 1FC2 | www.piku.org.uk/public-key.asc
E4C4 DEEA 7D08 D511 E149 | www.piku.org.uk wnzrf@cvxh.bet.hx (rot13'd)

Re: Hosting: Estimating Bandwidth uses?

[David Jackson]

James --
Thanks that's just tool I was looking for :)

David

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: James <james@piku.org.uk>
Date: 	Fri, 17 May 2002 20:03:44 +0100

>On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 12:57:46PM -0600, David Jackson wrote:
>| 
>| I might as well as be talking to a brickwall? 
>| He wants a site with "unlimited" pageviews? 
>| Back to my question, is their some why to estimate 
>| bandwidth using web access logs for intance? Or 
>| if the average page size was 1mb and he 500,000 on 
>| a single would 500,000 mb of bandwidth be a good 
>| estimate? 
>| 
>
>If the site runs Apache (maybe others too) and you have access to the
>webserver's logs (ask the ISP nicely, they might let you have yours.
>Mine does...), then run Analog on them. You'll get more stats than you
>know what to do with.
>
>http://www.analog.cx/
>
>-- 
>The truth is not out there  
> 
>6AD6 865A BF6E 76BB 1FC2 | www.piku.org.uk/public-key.asc
>E4C4 DEEA 7D08 D511 E149 | www.piku.org.uk wnzrf@cvxh.bet.hx (rot13'd)
>-
>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-admin" in
>the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
>More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>

Re: Hosting: Estimating Bandwidth uses?

[David Jackson]

Richard ---
Thanks (again) for usefull information,
I should have guessed that the answer was that simple.

David


>If you have the access file, you can get the number of bytes transferd. It
>comes right after the status code... 
>
>66.28.250.172 - - [14/May/2002:03:26:48 -0600] "GET /manual/vhosts/name-based.html HTTP/1.0" 200 7353 "-" "ia_archiver"
>
>So that response was 7353 bytes. You don't need to estimate anything..

>> I might as well as be talking to a brickwall? 
>> He wants a site with "unlimited" pageviews? 
>> Back to my question, is their some why to estimate 
>> bandwidth using web access logs for intance? Or 
>> if the average page size was 1mb and he 500,000 on 
>> a single would 500,000 mb of bandwidth be a good 
>> estimate? 
>> 
>> 
>> TIH,
>> David
>> -
>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-admin" in
>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
>> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>---end quoted text---
>
>-- 
>|       Richard Nairn          Specializing in Linux
>|     Nairn Consulting         Web / Database Solutions
>|        Calgary, AB           
>| Richard@NairnConsulting.ca
>

Re: Hosting: Estimating Bandwidth uses?

[Michael French]

At 08:03 PM 5/17/2002 +0100, you wrote:

         Don't know if you have used this before or if it might even be the 
sort of thing that you are looking for, but have you looked at MRTG 
(multiple router traffic grapher)?  You can set it up to watch interfaces, 
programs, just about anything.  It normally uses SNMP, but one of the guys 
I work with figured out how to make it run off of /proc to monitor ethernet 
interfaces.  It draws you a nice graph and keeps stats for you.  You can 
watch it in real time too, pretty slick.  Here is a link to the 
website:  http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/
Here is another link if you want to look at a live 
demo:  http://www.stat.ee.ethz.ch/mrtg/
Click on a graph to get more detail, pretty slick.

Michael French
>On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 12:57:46PM -0600, David Jackson wrote:
>|
>| I might as well as be talking to a brickwall?
>| He wants a site with "unlimited" pageviews?
>| Back to my question, is their some why to estimate
>| bandwidth using web access logs for intance? Or
>| if the average page size was 1mb and he 500,000 on
>| a single would 500,000 mb of bandwidth be a good
>| estimate?
>|
>
>If the site runs Apache (maybe others too) and you have access to the
>webserver's logs (ask the ISP nicely, they might let you have yours.
>Mine does...), then run Analog on them. You'll get more stats than you
>know what to do with.
>
>http://www.analog.cx/
>
>--
>The truth is not out there
>
>6AD6 865A BF6E 76BB 1FC2 | www.piku.org.uk/public-key.asc
>E4C4 DEEA 7D08 D511 E149 | www.piku.org.uk wnzrf@cvxh.bet.hx (rot13'd)
>-
>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-admin" in
>the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
>More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Michael French
Asheville Citizen-Times
IT Dept.
(828)236-8966

Re: Hosting: Estimating Bandwidth uses?

[David Jackson]

Micheal --
Tbanks for reminded me of MRTG, I forgotten about
that tool.

Dvid
-

RE: Hosting: Estimating Bandwidth uses?

[James Kelty]

Using MRTG at the router is a good way to view 'usage statistics' in the
form of bandwidth utilization. Not sure if this is possible for you, but it
might help.

-James


-----Original Message-----
From: linux-admin-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-admin-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of David Jackson
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:58 AM
To: linux-admin@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Hosting: Estimating Bandwidth uses?


First the question,how can I estimate bandwith being used on virtual hosting
sites?

Now the sorid details:
During the recent forest fires here in Colorado(US),
A local website which ran a blog,and chat group
to keep local residents update, was getting 500,000
"pageviews" per day. The web sites owner problem is he's being  billed for
pageview over certain limit?
His hosting company only provides pageviews, now bandwith used?

My comment was "most" webhost offer a base andwitdth usealy between 3-5
Gb/mo as a starting point.

I might as well as be talking to a brickwall?
He wants a site with "unlimited" pageviews?
Back to my question, is their some why to estimate
bandwidth using web access logs for intance? Or
if the average page size was 1mb and he 500,000 on
a single would 500,000 mb of bandwidth be a good
estimate?


TIH,
David
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-admin" in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html