RE: Remote login Typed commands

RE: Remote login Typed commands

[Abiy,Mike [Edm]]

The part that I am more concerned about is the keystrokes used (commands
run) during the the rmote login session. i can find out who logged in from
the wtmp file in /var/log , but i would like to be able to find what
commands they used during a particular session.
thanks
mike  
-----Original Message-----
From: David Jackson [mailto:david.jay.jackson@wcox.com]
Sent: June 17, 2002 8:51 AM
To: Abiy,Mike [Edm]
Subject: Re: Remote login Typed commands


Mike 
>Hi,
>can Any one tell me a way to tell what commands or series of commands,
>scripts to use inorder to identify who logged in remotely and what
>keystrokes that each remote user had used.
>thanks
>mike

Check syslog or messages, in ether /var/log or /var/adm log every user
who logged in and from where.

david

Re: Remote login Typed commands

[Tyler]

On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 09:09:39AM -0600, Abiy,Mike [Edm] wrote:
> 
> The part that I am more concerned about is the keystrokes used (commands
> run) during the the rmote login session. i can find out who logged in from
> the wtmp file in /var/log , but i would like to be able to find what
> commands they used during a particular session.
> thanks
> mike  

Not really, unless you set up a keystroke logger ahead of time.  You
could always read the user's ~/.bash_history or equivalent, but
if the user is doing something malicious, he or she will probably remove
or alter that file.

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Re: Remote login Typed commands

[Tim Walberg]

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one method I've used before is to replace the user's shell in
/etc/passwd with a script that straces the user's real shell,
and logs all exec system calls (i.e. 'strace -ftv -e trace=process -o <somefile> <realshell>')



On 06/17/2002 11:16 -0400, Tyler wrote:
>>	On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 09:09:39AM -0600, Abiy,Mike [Edm] wrote:
>>	> 
>>	> The part that I am more concerned about is the keystrokes used (commands
>>	> run) during the the rmote login session. i can find out who logged in from
>>	> the wtmp file in /var/log , but i would like to be able to find what
>>	> commands they used during a particular session.
>>	> thanks
>>	> mike  
>>	
>>	Not really, unless you set up a keystroke logger ahead of time.  You
>>	could always read the user's ~/.bash_history or equivalent, but
>>	if the user is doing something malicious, he or she will probably remove
>>	or alter that file.
>>	
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Re: Remote login Typed commands

[James]

On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 11:16:17AM -0400, Tyler wrote:
| On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 09:09:39AM -0600, Abiy,Mike [Edm] wrote:
| > 
| > The part that I am more concerned about is the keystrokes used (commands
| > run) during the the rmote login session. i can find out who logged in from
| > the wtmp file in /var/log , but i would like to be able to find what
| > commands they used during a particular session.
| > thanks
| > mike  
| 
| Not really, unless you set up a keystroke logger ahead of time.  You
| could always read the user's ~/.bash_history or equivalent, but
| if the user is doing something malicious, he or she will probably remove
| or alter that file.

Beware it might be an invasion of their privacy, and you might capture
"sensitive" things like passwords for other systems and their credit
card details.

Also they might just log in, type 'sh' and all you'll see is they
started a new shell and that's it, unless you're somehow intercepting
data coming across the network (which'd fail if they use SSH).

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Re: Remote login Typed commands

[Glynn Clements]

James wrote:

> | > The part that I am more concerned about is the keystrokes used (commands
> | > run) during the the rmote login session. i can find out who logged in from
> | > the wtmp file in /var/log , but i would like to be able to find what
> | > commands they used during a particular session.
> | > thanks
> | > mike  
> | 
> | Not really, unless you set up a keystroke logger ahead of time.  You
> | could always read the user's ~/.bash_history or equivalent, but
> | if the user is doing something malicious, he or she will probably remove
> | or alter that file.
> 
> Beware it might be an invasion of their privacy, and you might capture
> "sensitive" things like passwords for other systems and their credit
> card details.
> 
> Also they might just log in, type 'sh' and all you'll see is they
> started a new shell and that's it, unless you're somehow intercepting
> data coming across the network (which'd fail if they use SSH).

The traditional mechanism for keystroke logging sits between the
network connection and the (pseudo) terminal, so it will capture
everything that's coming over the network.

Ultimately, however, user input is only part of the picture. It's
always possible to do things in such a way that the user input doesn't
look suspicious.

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Remote login Typed commands

[Abiy,Mike [Edm]]

Hi,
can Any one tell me a way to tell what commands or series of commands,
scripts to use inorder to identify who logged in remotely and what
keystrokes that each remote user had used.
thanks
mike