Linux Help

Linux Help

[Kev]

Hi,

I'm new to Linux, so i'm paling to install a gateway, with the following,

1. Firewall
2. DNS
3. DHCP
4. SMTP (relay only)
5. Email Virus Scaning
6. Gray Listing (email)
7. NAT
8 Web Cashing
9. Web Based Configuration tool for all above.

can any one tell me the best Linux version to use, (RedHat, Debian, etc)
and the software i can use, like DNS = BIND, some thing simple to use...

the Box will be a P2 with 256MB ram but if i can get it to work on a P1
166Mhz that would be great....

thanks
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Re: Linux Help

[Jens Knoell]

Hi Kev

I won't recommend any specific distro, as that's pretty much a religious 
decision ;)

But...

Kev wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'm new to Linux, so i'm paling to install a gateway, with the following,
>
>1. Firewall
>  
>
that's built into the Linux kernel, no matter what distro.

>2. DNS
>  
>
I'd go with Bind. There are others, but they've even been worse than 
Bind IMO. However, make sure it's configured as restrictive as possible 
- DNS has some protocol specific security issues.

>3. DHCP
>  
>
No idea

>4. SMTP (relay only)
>  
>
QMail or Sendmail should both do the job just fine. If you are only 
relaying anyway, you could however just set up SpamAssassin.

>5. Email Virus Scaning
>  
>
AMaViS

>6. Gray Listing (email)
>  
>
Errr... what?

>7. NAT
>  
>
Comes with the Linux kernel, it's more or less built into the firewall code.

>8 Web Cashing
>  
>
Squid

>9. Web Based Configuration tool for all above.
>  
>
Webmin (comes with most distros, AFAIK)

>the Box will be a P2 with 256MB ram but if i can get it to work on a P1
>166Mhz that would be great....
>  
>
Should work fine on a P1/166. Depends on how complex your firewall rules 
are, and the amout of mail you want to process. Mail Virus Scanning is 
rather CPU intensive.


Hope this helps
Jen

Re[10]: Linux Help

[Kev]

how can you make Debian Detect hardware after the installation ?



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Re: Re[10]: Linux Help

[Sascha Retzki]

Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 18.27 schrieb Kev:
> how can you make Debian Detect hardware after the installation ?

This question is ( among many other debian-specific questions ) covered
by their documentations, but ok :)


"detect" hardware .. hm .. first of, /etc/modules is a
one-modulename-per-line file is loaded at boottime, so this is the place
where you put the module-names in ( without the path or the .o ). The
detection is imho manually done with debian. Tip is to use modprobe
instead of isnmod to load dependencies of modules, use lspci -v to find
out all pci/Isa/... adapters and chipnames in your computer ... . Linux
module-names are named after chipsetname, not that what the vendor tries
to tell you on the cage ;) ... .

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Re[12]: Linux Help

[Kev]

I have installed Debina with out my LAN cards (Realtec) i did add the
cards after the Denian installation, now i cant seem to get Debian to
detect them :(


On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:42:44 +0200
Sascha Retzki <lantis@iqranet.info> wrote:

>--> Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 18.27 schrieb Kev:
>--> > how can you make Debian Detect hardware after the installation ?
>--> 
>--> This question is ( among many other debian-specific questions ) covered
>--> by their documentations, but ok :)
>--> 
>--> 
>--> "detect" hardware .. hm .. first of, /etc/modules is a
>--> one-modulename-per-line file is loaded at boottime, so this is the place
>--> where you put the module-names in ( without the path or the .o ). The
>--> detection is imho manually done with debian. Tip is to use modprobe
>--> instead of isnmod to load dependencies of modules, use lspci -v to find
>--> out all pci/Isa/... adapters and chipnames in your computer ... . Linux
>--> module-names are named after chipsetname, not that what the vendor tries
>--> to tell you on the cage ;) ... .
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Re[12]: Linux Help

[Kev]

PS. the LAN cards are both, Realtek RTL8139


On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:42:44 +0200
Sascha Retzki <lantis@iqranet.info> wrote:

>Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 18.27 schrieb Kev:
>> how can you make Debian Detect hardware after the installation ?
>
>This question is ( among many other debian-specific questions ) covered
>by their documentations, but ok :)
>
>
>"detect" hardware .. hm .. first of, /etc/modules is a
>one-modulename-per-line file is loaded at boottime, so this is the place
>where you put the module-names in ( without the path or the .o ). The
>detection is imho manually done with debian. Tip is to use modprobe
>instead of isnmod to load dependencies of modules, use lspci -v to find
>out all pci/Isa/... adapters and chipnames in your computer ... . Linux
>module-names are named after chipsetname, not that what the vendor tries
>to tell you on the cage ;) ... .
>
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Re: Re[12]: Linux Help

[Sascha Retzki]

Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 18.46 schrieb Kev:
> I have installed Debina with out my LAN cards (Realtec) i did add the
> cards after the Denian installation, now i cant seem to get Debian to
> detect them :(
> 

Realtec ? Maybe 8139too or 8139cp... RealTek RTL-8029 ? that is ne ... .
( ne is generally a module I constantly try because NE1/2000 are widely
used :) ). 


> 
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:42:44 +0200
> Sascha Retzki <lantis@iqranet.info> wrote:
> 
> >--> Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 18.27 schrieb Kev:
> >--> > how can you make Debian Detect hardware after the installation ?
> >--> 
> >--> This question is ( among many other debian-specific questions ) covered
> >--> by their documentations, but ok :)
> >--> 
> >--> 
> >--> "detect" hardware .. hm .. first of, /etc/modules is a
> >--> one-modulename-per-line file is loaded at boottime, so this is the place
> >--> where you put the module-names in ( without the path or the .o ). The
> >--> detection is imho manually done with debian. Tip is to use modprobe
> >--> instead of isnmod to load dependencies of modules, use lspci -v to find
> >--> out all pci/Isa/... adapters and chipnames in your computer ... . Linux
> >--> module-names are named after chipsetname, not that what the vendor tries
> >--> to tell you on the cage ;) ... .
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Re: Re[12]: Linux Help

[Sascha Retzki]

Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 19.05 schrieb Sascha Retzki:
> Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 18.46 schrieb Kev:
> > I have installed Debina with out my LAN cards (Realtec) i did add the
> > cards after the Denian installation, now i cant seem to get Debian to
> > detect them :(
> > 
> 
> Realtec ? Maybe 8139too or 8139cp... RealTek RTL-8029 ? that is ne ... .
> ( ne is generally a module I constantly try because NE1/2000 are widely
> used :) ). 
> 
Oh well, command is "modprobe 8139too" or "modprobe 8139cp" or "modrpobe
ne" ... after you found out which one works, put it into /etc/modules.

> 
> > 
> > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:42:44 +0200
> > Sascha Retzki <lantis@iqranet.info> wrote:
> > 
> > >--> Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 18.27 schrieb Kev:
> > >--> > how can you make Debian Detect hardware after the installation ?
> > >--> 
> > >--> This question is ( among many other debian-specific questions ) covered
> > >--> by their documentations, but ok :)
> > >--> 
> > >--> 
> > >--> "detect" hardware .. hm .. first of, /etc/modules is a
> > >--> one-modulename-per-line file is loaded at boottime, so this is the place
> > >--> where you put the module-names in ( without the path or the .o ). The
> > >--> detection is imho manually done with debian. Tip is to use modprobe
> > >--> instead of isnmod to load dependencies of modules, use lspci -v to find
> > >--> out all pci/Isa/... adapters and chipnames in your computer ... . Linux
> > >--> module-names are named after chipsetname, not that what the vendor tries
> > >--> to tell you on the cage ;) ... .
> > >--> 
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Re[14]: Linux Help

[Kev]

>Oh well, command is "modprobe 8139too" or "modprobe 8139cp" or "modrpobe
>ne" ... after you found out which one works, put it into /etc/modules.

oh yeah it works !!!! THANKS !!!

its 8139too


On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:07:49 +0200
Sascha Retzki <lantis@iqranet.info> wrote:

>Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 19.05 schrieb Sascha Retzki:
>> Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 18.46 schrieb Kev:
>> > I have installed Debina with out my LAN cards (Realtec) i did add the
>> > cards after the Denian installation, now i cant seem to get Debian to
>> > detect them :(
>> > 
>> 
>> Realtec ? Maybe 8139too or 8139cp... RealTek RTL-8029 ? that is ne ... .
>> ( ne is generally a module I constantly try because NE1/2000 are widely
>> used :) ). 
>> 
>Oh well, command is "modprobe 8139too" or "modprobe 8139cp" or "modrpobe
>ne" ... after you found out which one works, put it into /etc/modules.
>
>> 
>> > 
>> > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:42:44 +0200
>> > Sascha Retzki <lantis@iqranet.info> wrote:
>> > 
>> > >--> Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 18.27 schrieb Kev:
>> > >--> > how can you make Debian Detect hardware after the installation ?
>> > >--> 
>> > >--> This question is ( among many other debian-specific questions ) covered
>> > >--> by their documentations, but ok :)
>> > >--> 
>> > >--> 
>> > >--> "detect" hardware .. hm .. first of, /etc/modules is a
>> > >--> one-modulename-per-line file is loaded at boottime, so this is the place
>> > >--> where you put the module-names in ( without the path or the .o ). The
>> > >--> detection is imho manually done with debian. Tip is to use modprobe
>> > >--> instead of isnmod to load dependencies of modules, use lspci -v to find
>> > >--> out all pci/Isa/... adapters and chipnames in your computer ... . Linux
>> > >--> module-names are named after chipsetname, not that what the vendor tries
>> > >--> to tell you on the cage ;) ... .
>> > >--> 
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Re: Linux Help

[chuck gelm]

Uh, I like bottom posting and removing unnecessary lines.
Kev wrote:
> I have installed Debina with out my LAN cards (Realtec) i did add the
> cards after the Denian installation, now i cant seem to get Debian to
> detect them :(

What did you do and how did it fail?

Rheorical:

  How does hardware detection fall into administration?
  I would have posted this topic on linux-newbie.

> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:42:44 +0200
> Sascha Retzki <lantis@iqranet.info> wrote:

>>--> Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 18.27 schrieb Kev:
>>--> > how can you make Debian Detect hardware after the installation ?
>>--> 
>>--> This question is ( among many other debian-specific questions ) covered
>>--> by their documentations, but ok :)

>>--> "detect" hardware .. hm .. first of, /etc/modules is a
>>--> one-modulename-per-line file is loaded at boottime, so this is the place
>>--> where you put the module-names in ( without the path or the .o ). The
>>--> detection is imho manually done with debian. Tip is to use modprobe
>>--> instead of isnmod to load dependencies of modules, use lspci -v to find
>>--> out all pci/Isa/... adapters and chipnames in your computer ... . Linux
>>--> module-names are named after chipsetname, not that what the vendor tries
>>--> to tell you on the cage ;) ... .

modprobe 8139too

HTH, Chuck

Re: Linux Help

[joy]

Sascha Retzki wrote:

>Am Di, 2004-07-20 um 17.20 schrieb Kev:
>  
>
>>Hi guys...
>>
>>i'm going to do the follwing as a 1st step,
>>
>>i got a Debian 3 (woody) basic 1 CD and i'm going to have postfix as the
>>SMTP relay.... the BOX is a Cyrix 233Mhz with 64MB ram, (Compaq Presario)
>>4GB HDD with 2 Lan Cards
>>
>>i'm going to install Webmin 1.5, and also DHCP for Debian that comes
>>with Debian (on the web site) 
>>
>>do you gusy thing i can do this with a basic Debian instalation or
>>should i download all other CD's from the site ? 
>>    
>>
>
>I think so, firewall, dns, dhcp, smtp, squid should really be there.
>
>  
>
How about Courier for the smtp part?
As Kev said a web based config would be nice and courier  comes with
courier  webadmin - nice thing to get your setup up and running.
and it some graylisting facilities as well

Joy.M.M