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* File size
@ 2004-08-08  9:00 Anindya Mozumdar
  2004-08-08  9:16 ` Sascha Retzki
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From: Anindya Mozumdar @ 2004-08-08  9:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-admin

Hi,
   How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
   the file manually through an editor ?
Anindya.

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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08  9:00 File size Anindya Mozumdar
@ 2004-08-08  9:16 ` Sascha Retzki
  2004-08-08 11:44 ` Roberto Vanto
                   ` (6 subsequent siblings)
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Sascha Retzki @ 2004-08-08  9:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-admin

Am So, 2004-08-08 um 11.00 schrieb Anindya Mozumdar:
> Hi,
>    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
>    the file manually through an editor ?

echo -n "">foo

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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08  9:00 File size Anindya Mozumdar
  2004-08-08  9:16 ` Sascha Retzki
@ 2004-08-08 11:44 ` Roberto Vanto
  2004-08-08 11:55   ` Aroop MP
  2004-08-08 12:01   ` File size Sascha Retzki
  2004-08-08 12:44 ` Tim Walberg
                   ` (5 subsequent siblings)
  7 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Roberto Vanto @ 2004-08-08 11:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-admin

Anindya Mozumdar ha scritto:
> Hi,
>    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
>    the file manually through an editor ?
> Anindya.
> -

man touch

touch foo


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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08 11:44 ` Roberto Vanto
@ 2004-08-08 11:55   ` Aroop MP
  2004-08-09 21:14     ` File size (shortest possible solution) + don't touch Stephen Samuel
  2004-08-08 12:01   ` File size Sascha Retzki
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Aroop MP @ 2004-08-08 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roberto Vanto, linux-admin

You can make a file zero length by cat > foo and by typing CTRL-D
On Sunday 08 Aug 2004 5:14 pm, Roberto Vanto wrote:
> Anindya Mozumdar ha scritto:
> > Hi,
> >    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
> >    the file manually through an editor ?
> > Anindya.
> > -
>
> man touch
>
> touch foo
>
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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08 11:44 ` Roberto Vanto
  2004-08-08 11:55   ` Aroop MP
@ 2004-08-08 12:01   ` Sascha Retzki
  2004-08-08 13:10     ` Aroop MP
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Sascha Retzki @ 2004-08-08 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-admin

Am So, 2004-08-08 um 13.44 schrieb Roberto Vanto:
> Anindya Mozumdar ha scritto:
> > Hi,
> >    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
> >    the file manually through an editor ?
> > Anindya.
> > -
> 
> man touch
> 
> touch foo

touch changes the timestamp if the file exists. It sounds like the file
already exists. btw, You don't need to delete it through an editor, "rm
foo ; touch foo" would do it, too. ;-)

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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08  9:00 File size Anindya Mozumdar
  2004-08-08  9:16 ` Sascha Retzki
  2004-08-08 11:44 ` Roberto Vanto
@ 2004-08-08 12:44 ` Tim Walberg
  2004-08-08 15:45 ` (unknown) Debian UserJens Suelwald
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Tim Walberg @ 2004-08-08 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anindya Mozumdar; +Cc: linux-admin

cp /dev/null somefile



On 08/08/2004 14:30 +0530, Anindya Mozumdar wrote:
>>	Hi,
>>	   How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
>>	   the file manually through an editor ?
>>	Anindya.
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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08 12:01   ` File size Sascha Retzki
@ 2004-08-08 13:10     ` Aroop MP
  2004-08-08 13:20       ` Sascha Retzki
  2004-08-08 13:57       ` John Julian
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Aroop MP @ 2004-08-08 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lantis, linux-admin

How can i attach one file on the top of another file.

Suppose file1 has 10 lines and file2 has 20 lines. I want to attach the 10 
lines of file1 to file2 so that the file2 will have 30 lines in total.

On Sunday 08 Aug 2004 5:31 pm, Sascha Retzki wrote:
> Am So, 2004-08-08 um 13.44 schrieb Roberto Vanto:
> > Anindya Mozumdar ha scritto:
> > > Hi,
> > >    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
> > >    the file manually through an editor ?
> > > Anindya.
> > > -
> >
> > man touch
> >
> > touch foo
>
> touch changes the timestamp if the file exists. It sounds like the file
> already exists. btw, You don't need to delete it through an editor, "rm
> foo ; touch foo" would do it, too. ;-)
>
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 Aroop M.P
 Bobcares Support Team
 ---------------------------------------------------
 "NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN THE WORLD,IF YOU HAVE DECIDED TO DO  SOMETHING 
DEEP FROM YOUR HEART YOU CAN DO IT. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE   THOUGHT THAT 
MATTERS... "
 ---------------------------------------------------

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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08 13:10     ` Aroop MP
@ 2004-08-08 13:20       ` Sascha Retzki
  2004-08-08 13:57       ` John Julian
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Sascha Retzki @ 2004-08-08 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-admin

Am So, 2004-08-08 um 15.10 schrieb Aroop MP:
> How can i attach one file on the top of another file.
> 
> Suppose file1 has 10 lines and file2 has 20 lines. I want to attach the 10 
> lines of file1 to file2 so that the file2 will have 30 lines in total.
> 

cat file1 file2 >file3

> On Sunday 08 Aug 2004 5:31 pm, Sascha Retzki wrote:
> > Am So, 2004-08-08 um 13.44 schrieb Roberto Vanto:
> > > Anindya Mozumdar ha scritto:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
> > > >    the file manually through an editor ?
> > > > Anindya.
> > > > -
> > >
> > > man touch
> > >
> > > touch foo
> >
> > touch changes the timestamp if the file exists. It sounds like the file
> > already exists. btw, You don't need to delete it through an editor, "rm
> > foo ; touch foo" would do it, too. ;-)
> >
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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08 13:10     ` Aroop MP
  2004-08-08 13:20       ` Sascha Retzki
@ 2004-08-08 13:57       ` John Julian
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: John Julian @ 2004-08-08 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Aroop MP; +Cc: lantis, linux-admin


To append file1 to file2 do:
cat file1 >> file2

Simple way to empty a file or make an empty file (bash or
ksh) do:
> file

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, Aroop MP wrote:

> How can i attach one file on the top of another file.
> 
> Suppose file1 has 10 lines and file2 has 20 lines. I want to attach the 10 
> lines of file1 to file2 so that the file2 will have 30 lines in total.
> 
> On Sunday 08 Aug 2004 5:31 pm, Sascha Retzki wrote:
> > Am So, 2004-08-08 um 13.44 schrieb Roberto Vanto:
> > > Anindya Mozumdar ha scritto:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
> > > >    the file manually through an editor ?
> > > > Anindya.
> > > > -
> > >
> > > man touch
> > >
> > > touch foo
> >
> > touch changes the timestamp if the file exists. It sounds like the file
> > already exists. btw, You don't need to delete it through an editor, "rm
> > foo ; touch foo" would do it, too. ;-)
> >

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* (unknown)
  2004-08-08  9:00 File size Anindya Mozumdar
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2004-08-08 12:44 ` Tim Walberg
@ 2004-08-08 15:45 ` Debian UserJens Suelwald
  2004-08-09 13:21   ` Adam Lang
  2004-08-09  8:41 ` File size Ag. System Administrator
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  7 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Debian UserJens Suelwald @ 2004-08-08 15:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: linux-admin

unsubscribe linux-admin


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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08  9:00 File size Anindya Mozumdar
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2004-08-08 15:45 ` (unknown) Debian UserJens Suelwald
@ 2004-08-09  8:41 ` Ag. System Administrator
  2004-08-09 14:39 ` Scott Taylor
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Ag. System Administrator @ 2004-08-09  8:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-admin

Anindya Mozumdar wrote:
> Hi,
>    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
>    the file manually through an editor ?
> Anindya.
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> 

do that from cmd line:

 > /file


Adios,
D


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* Re:
  2004-08-08 15:45 ` (unknown) Debian UserJens Suelwald
@ 2004-08-09 13:21   ` Adam Lang
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Adam Lang @ 2004-08-09 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: linux-admin

no
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Debian UserJens Suelwald" <knoppix@werebones.de>
To: <unlisted-recipients:>; <no To-header on input>
Cc: <linux-admin@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 11:45 AM


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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08  9:00 File size Anindya Mozumdar
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2004-08-09  8:41 ` File size Ag. System Administrator
@ 2004-08-09 14:39 ` Scott Taylor
  2004-08-10  6:27 ` Andrew Kelly
  2004-08-10 13:47 ` Anindya Mozumdar
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Scott Taylor @ 2004-08-09 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-admin


Anindya Mozumdar said:
> Hi,
>    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
>    the file manually through an editor ?

LMAO

If you are trying to get answers to a test or have us do your home work
for you, this is probably not the best place to do it.  Here you will find
SysAdmins, not all are schooled and many times you will find answers here
that do not agree with your school book.

For stuff like this you should try linux-newbie@vger.kernel.org

Although, you may find a lot of bored SysAdmins here, giving you all kinds
of strange answers (some that are even wrong), this is not the appropriate
place.  As funny as it is, people should not give wrong answers, and less
then knowlegdeable SysAdmins should not either.

BTW, "cp /dev/null > myFile" works, but may need to be contested to give
you accurate points on a test.  Depending on your shell, probably, a
simple ">myFile" will be the proper response.




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* Re: File size (shortest possible solution)  + don't touch
  2004-08-08 11:55   ` Aroop MP
@ 2004-08-09 21:14     ` Stephen Samuel
  2004-08-09 22:47       ` Daniel Berlin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Samuel @ 2004-08-09 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Aroop MP; +Cc: Roberto Vanto, linux-admin

the shortest possible:
       ` > somefile `
(( redirect the output of no command at all to somefile ))

Although not necessary, I'll often go
       ` true > somefile `
True does nothing other than return success. The reason why
I like using it is that it makes a placeholder so that a reader
knows that something (or rather explicitly nothing) is happening.


`Touch` doesn't work.. If the file already exists, it will simply
change the last mod-time. without altering the contents

The original purpose of touch (I think) was to convince make(1) that
something needed to be done.

Anindya Mozumdar wrote:
 > Hi,
 >    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
 >    the file manually through an editor ?
 > Anindya.


-- 
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		   http://www.bcgreen.com/~samuel/
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      the jewel within each person and bringing it to light.

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* Re: File size (shortest possible solution)  + don't touch
  2004-08-09 21:14     ` File size (shortest possible solution) + don't touch Stephen Samuel
@ 2004-08-09 22:47       ` Daniel Berlin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Berlin @ 2004-08-09 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-admin

How about
: > file
'' : '' does really absolutely nothing

daniel

Am Mo 09.08.2004 23:14 schrieb Stephen Samuel <samuel@bcgreen.com>:

> the shortest possible:
> ` > somefile `
> (( redirect the output of no command at all to somefile ))
>
> Although not necessary, I'll often go
> ` true > somefile `
> True does nothing other than return success. The reason why
> I like using it is that it makes a placeholder so that a reader
> knows that something (or rather explicitly nothing) is happening.
>
>
> `Touch` doesn't work.. If the file already exists, it will simply
> change the last mod-time. without altering the contents
>
> The original purpose of touch (I think) was to convince make(1) that
> something needed to be done.
>
> Anindya Mozumdar wrote:
> > Hi,
> > How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
> > the file manually through an editor ?
> > Anindya.
>
>
> --
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> http://www.bcgreen.com/~samuel/
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> the jewel within each person and bringing it to light.
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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08  9:00 File size Anindya Mozumdar
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2004-08-09 14:39 ` Scott Taylor
@ 2004-08-10  6:27 ` Andrew Kelly
  2004-08-10 13:47 ` Anindya Mozumdar
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Kelly @ 2004-08-10  6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anindya Mozumdar; +Cc: linux-admin@vger.kernel.org

On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 11:00, Anindya Mozumdar wrote:
> Hi,
>    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
>    the file manually through an editor ?


One more voice in the crowd...

:>foo

After we've helped you with your homework, do we get to put our hand up
your sweater?


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* Re: File size
  2004-08-08  9:00 File size Anindya Mozumdar
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2004-08-10  6:27 ` Andrew Kelly
@ 2004-08-10 13:47 ` Anindya Mozumdar
  7 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Anindya Mozumdar @ 2004-08-10 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-admin

Hi,
  Thanks very much for your replies. However, this was not any homework
  or assignment. This arose mainly from an argument regarding touch with
  a fellow linux user, and since we did not have access to any machine
  running linux, the best solution was this mail.

  In fact, someone did give a wrong solution with touch, which was
  precisely the point of argument. The mail was sent in the form below
  so that we can get to know the other unnoticed  ways, hoping that someone
  mentions touch as a solution.
Anindya. 

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 02:30:45PM +0530, Anindya Mozumdar wrote:
> Hi,
>    How can I make a file zero length without deleting the contents of
>    the file manually through an editor ?
> Anindya.
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