From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alan Bort <333101@personal.net.py> Subject: Re: compiling kernel for an alphaserver (VERY OLD ONE) Date: 26 Apr 2003 15:47:48 -0300 Sender: linux-alpha-owner@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <1051382868.13073.9.camel@Gandalf> References: <1051322644.1967.55.camel@Gandalf> <20030426123356.GU19139@lug-owl.de> <1051361649.1968.70.camel@Gandalf> <20030426155824.GV19139@lug-owl.de> Reply-To: 333101@personal.net.py Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20030426155824.GV19139@lug-owl.de> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Jan-Benedict Glaw Cc: linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org El s=E1b, 26 de 04 de 2003 a las 12:58, Jan-Benedict Glaw escribi=F3: > On Sat, 2003-04-26 09:54:10 -0300, Alan Bort <333101@personal.net.py> > wrote in message <1051361649.1968.70.camel@Gandalf>: > > El s=E1b, 26 de 04 de 2003 a las 09:33, Jan-Benedict Glaw escribi=F3= : > > > > Don't use 2.4.20 on Alpha, it has nasty bugs. 2.4.19 is fine, = as are > > > > 2.4.21-pre1 and up. > > >=20 > > > Or 2.5.x. I'm running them for quite some time on NoName, Miata a= nd > > > Avanti with no problems at all. > > I'll try with 2.4.19 I think it is a little more tested... or at le= ast I > > think it should >=20 > Then try 2.4.19. But I stand my word - 2.5.x is running quite well fo= r > me. However, it's a bit challenging to get 2.5.x running (for the fir= st > time) because some things are different. You've to use a new set of > module utilities (no longer modutils but module-init-tools) and some > things got modularized you may not expect to be modules. So if you mi= ss > to load the keyboard modules (if you didn't compile it directly into > kernel image) you come up with basically no keyboard (or even with no > output to monitor:) Well... I was going to take out my video card and make the output through a serial port... because I need the second PCI for another 10/100 eth... (the on-board is just 10 and the one I have is plugged to the radio-modem) >=20 > > > > > I've noted that the downloadable file is only 4 MB (a little = less)... is > > > > > that the FULL kernel??? > > > >=20 > > > > Is that already compiled? My kernels usually end up around 1.5= MB in > > > > size, or ~2.7 MB uncompressed. > > > Maybe it contains loads of drivers. I think you can easily get a = 4MB > > > uncompressed kernel image... > > The problem is that It's 4MB compressed WITH BZ2! >=20 > Wow, that's really big then. However, is any bootloader capable of > booting a .bz2 image? IIRC only ELF and gzip compressed ELF images ar= e > supported (with aboot as well as with milo). >=20 > > [SNIP] > > >=20 > > > I subscribe that. Alpha is _not_ i386, so some things _are_ diffe= rent. > > > Please, do some reading (and asking) first, then eventually don't= shoot > > > your foot. > > Of course... I'll odo as much resaerch as I do for ANY 'new' sthing= I do > > on linux... but... will reading preapre me well for what I should > > expect??? >=20 > Well, for a first-time alpha user, some things are really wired. Firs= t, > you maybo don't have to use well-known DOS-compatible partitions but = BSD > partitions instead. Then you've got to get one of a set ot twe new bo= ot > loaders to work properly. This includes to figure out how to interact > with them (how to pass kernel parameters or boot loader parameters fr= om > SRM or from within AlphaBIOS, how to set environment variables there, > ...). >=20 > That are the most common nitpicks there, I think. However, you've got= to > start learning about the boot process with every new platform you sta= rt > playing with. This said, HP-PA boxen are different, as well as Sparc > machines are another thing. ...and Amigas, Ataris and Macs are > different, too. >=20 > MfG, JBG --=20 Alan Bort Linux Registered User 298277 -Country Manager- [http://counter.li.org] [ http://www.linuxquestions.org ] Username: Ciccio [ http://es.tldp.org ] Ciccio.- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-alpha" = in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html