From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw Subject: Re: List active ? Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:34:41 +0200 Sender: linux-alpha-owner@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <20031011153441.GH20846@lug-owl.de> References: <200310111244.h9BCi7QD021471@indianer.linux-kernel.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IMTvnlbiJgni0Sb+" Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310111244.h9BCi7QD021471@indianer.linux-kernel.at> List-Id: To: linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org --IMTvnlbiJgni0Sb+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2003-10-11 14:41:59 +0200, Oliver Pitzeier wrote in message <200310111244.h9BCi7QD021471@indianer.linux-kernel.at>: > Hi George! >=20 > > On Friday 10 October 2003 11:17 pm, Alan Bort wrote: > > > And lets be realistic, there are not many Alpha left in this world,= =20 > >=20 > > There are many Alphas remaining. Many that run Linux. Many=20 > > more that run Tru64 and OpenVMS. You can still buy shinny new > > alpha systems.=20 >=20 > But what for should anyone buy alphas today? If they need 64-bit, they bu= y Itanium, which is cheaper... If they need good performance, they buy a fo= ur-way-Xeon-system - which _is_ faster than a ES45 for example.... Try to get a SMP box in the *really* high performance area. A 32 CPU Itanium (is something like that available) won't for sure outperform today's fastest Alpha. At some time, price isn't a question. Only raw performance... Then, you buy Alpha, MIPS, UltraSparc, PA-RISC. > > Alpha is going away, but it is not gone yet. >=20 > HP is letting Alpha die... They didn't annouce the newest alpha-chip a fe= w months ago (EV78!?)... Indeed. Alpha is dieing. However, HP is quite in problems there. Nowadays, they have i386, Itanium, Alpha and their own processor, PA-RISC... MfG, JBG --=20 Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw@lug-owl.de . +49-172-7608481 "Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg fuer einen Freien Staat voll Freier B=FCrger" | im Internet! | im Ira= k! ret =3D do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TC= PA)); --IMTvnlbiJgni0Sb+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/iCMRHb1edYOZ4bsRAn2OAJ4/1nY3EBvmyfrko1SGJyc5pIzPAQCfUnkk CQ+83HzBKg/UFoOBg1/qf2g= =iX2D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IMTvnlbiJgni0Sb+--