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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
	Marc Gauthier <marc@cadence.com>,
	Michael Cree <mcree@orcon.net.nz>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Miroslav Franc <mfranc@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	"linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org" <linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: bit fields && data tearing
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:05:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140905210543.GC5001@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1409052247460.5472@nanos>

On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 10:48:34PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 01:34:52PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > > On 09/05/2014 01:14 PM, Peter Hurley wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Here's how I read the two statements.
> > > > 
> > > > First, the commit message:
> > > > 
> > > > "It [this commit] documents that CPUs [supported by the Linux kernel]
> > > > _must provide_ atomic one-byte and two-byte naturally aligned loads and stores."
> > > > 
> > > > Second, in the body of the document:
> > > > 
> > > > "The Linux kernel no longer supports pre-EV56 Alpha CPUs, because these
> > > > older CPUs _do not provide_ atomic one-byte and two-byte loads and stores."
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Does this apply in general or only to SMP configurations?  I guess
> > > non-SMP configurations would still have problems if interrupted in the
> > > wrong place...
> > 
> > And preemption could cause problems, too.  So I believe that it needs
> > to be universal.
> 
> Well preemption is usually caused by an interrupt, except you have a
> combined load and preempt instruction :)

Fair point!  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-05 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20140712181328.GA8738@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <54079B70.4050200@hurleysoftware.com>
     [not found]   ` <1409785893.30640.118.camel@pasglop>
     [not found]     ` <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D17487172@AcuExch.aculab.com>
     [not found]       ` <1409824374.4246.62.camel@pasglop>
     [not found]         ` <5408E458.3@zytor.com>
2014-09-05  0:59           ` bit fields && data tearing Peter Hurley
2014-09-05  2:08             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-05  8:16               ` Michael Cree
2014-09-05 18:09                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 18:31                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 19:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-05 20:01                       ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 20:12                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-05 20:15                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-05 20:19                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 18:50                   ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 19:05                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 19:24                       ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 20:09                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 19:38                       ` Marc Gauthier
2014-09-05 20:14                         ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 20:34                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-05 20:42                             ` Michael Cree
2014-09-05 20:43                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 20:48                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-05 21:05                                 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-09-05 20:39                           ` Michael Cree
2014-09-05 21:12                             ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 21:27                               ` Michael Cree
2014-09-05 20:42                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05  2:08             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-05 15:31               ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 15:41                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-08 17:52                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-08 17:59                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-08 19:17                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-09 11:18                         ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-08 22:47                       ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-09  1:59                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-09 11:14                         ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-11 10:04                         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-11 16:16                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-11 20:01                           ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-14 23:24                             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-22 19:51                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-23 18:19                               ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-23 18:39                                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-08 18:13                     ` James Bottomley
2014-09-10 20:18                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-10 21:10                       ` Rob Landley
     [not found]     ` <21512.10628.412205.873477@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
     [not found]       ` <20140904090952.GW17454@tucnak.redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <540859EC.5000407@hurleysoftware.com>
     [not found]           ` <20140904175044.4697aee4@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk>
     [not found]             ` <5408C0AB.6050801@hurleysoftware.com>
     [not found]               ` <5408E4A3.2060303@zytor.com>
     [not found]                 ` <20140905001751.GL5001@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2014-09-05  1:57                   ` Peter Hurley

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