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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linux MIPS Mailing List <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
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	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] Randomization of address chosen by mmap.
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:49:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180327234904.GA27734@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+XXufprMaJ9GbHxD3mZ7iqUuu60-tTMC6wo2x1puYzMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 03:53:53PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> I agree: pushing this off to libc leaves a lot of things unprotected.
> I think this should live in the kernel. The question I have is about
> making it maintainable/readable/etc.
> 
> The state-of-the-art for ASLR is moving to finer granularity (over
> just base-address offset), so I'd really like to see this supported in
> the kernel. We'll be getting there for other things in the future, and
> I'd like to have a working production example for researchers to
> study, etc.

One thing we need is to limit the fragmentation of this approach.
Even on 64-bit systems, we can easily get into a situation where there isn't
space to map a contiguous terabyte.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-27 23:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1521736598-12812-1-git-send-email-blackzert@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <1521736598-12812-2-git-send-email-blackzert@gmail.com>
2018-03-22 20:53   ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] Randomization of address chosen by mmap Andrew Morton
2018-03-23 17:43     ` Ilya Smith
     [not found] ` <1521736598-12812-3-git-send-email-blackzert@gmail.com>
2018-03-22 20:54   ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] Architecture defined limit on memory region random shift Andrew Morton
2018-03-23 17:48     ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-23 17:49     ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-22 20:57 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] Randomization of address chosen by mmap Andrew Morton
2018-03-23 17:25   ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-23 12:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-23 17:55   ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-26  8:46     ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-26 19:45       ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-27  7:24         ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-27 13:51           ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-27 14:38             ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-28 18:47               ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-27 22:16             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-03-28 18:48               ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-27 22:53             ` Kees Cook
2018-03-27 23:49               ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2018-03-27 23:57                 ` Kees Cook
2018-03-28  0:00                 ` Rich Felker
2018-03-28 21:07                   ` Luck, Tony
2018-04-03  0:11                     ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-28 21:07                 ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-23 18:00   ` Rich Felker
2018-03-23 19:06     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-23 19:16       ` Rich Felker
2018-03-23 19:29         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-23 19:35           ` Rich Felker
2018-03-28  4:50       ` Rob Landley
2018-03-30  7:55 ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-30  9:07   ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-30  9:57     ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-30 11:10       ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-30 13:33   ` Rich Felker

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