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[159.2.239.150]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id af79cd13be357-93917012b65sm1040535485a.2.2026.09.01.07.24.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 01 Sep 2026 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jgg by wakko with local (Exim 4.97) (envelope-from ) id 1x1PPE-0000000BgeE-10ID; Tue, 01 Sep 2026 11:24:08 -0300 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2026 11:24:08 -0300 From: Jason Gunthorpe To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" Cc: Kiryl Shutsemau , Andrew Morton , David Hildenbrand , Zi Yan , Baolin Wang , "Liam R. 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Peter Anvin" , Arnd Bergmann , Vlastimil Babka , Mike Rapoport , Suren Baghdasaryan , Michal Hocko , John Hubbard , Peter Xu , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-csky@vger.kernel.org, linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-openrisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, loongarch@lists.linux.dev, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-um@lists.infradead.org, Hugh Dickins , Qi Zheng Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/12] mm/huge_memory: zap deposited page tables after an RCU grace period Message-ID: <20260901142408.GA56830@ziepe.ca> References: <20260901-rcu-pagetable-freeing-v1-0-5456a81c8212@kernel.org> <20260901-rcu-pagetable-freeing-v1-1-5456a81c8212@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Tue, Sep 01, 2026 at 03:12:45PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote: > It won't be costly at the time of the calls obviously as its deferred. Maybe > increase some time spent in softirq but again is 512x that big of a deal? > > I'm not sure how you'd both defer the free and somehow utilise mmu_gather here > either really, certainly not without it becoming extremely messy. The less costly version is to thread the page to be freed onto the mmu_gather through a linked list in the struct page memory. This is super cheap since it is just a singly linked list operation. Then when the mmu_gather is flushed it does a single call_rcu using the rcu head of the struct page of the head of the list. The callback clears the entire linked list of pages. Since you have to tlb flush anyhow, it makes sense to always use the mmu_gather. For example the design I ended up with for iommupt accumulates all the invalidations and all the free-able memory into a gather then invalidates and frees. This allows maximizing the tlbi efficiency too. You can't do call_srcu until you flush the tlb and if you call once per table then you are also tlb flushing once per table too. So if the kernel really does want to clear out 512 leaf tables the optimal implementation is one range tlbi for 512 entries followed by one call_rcu to free the memory. Hence the gather.. Jason