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From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Michael Cree <mcree@orcon.net.nz>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Miroslav Franc <mfranc@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bit fields && data tearing
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:01:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <540A169F.40906@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140905195234.GT4783@worktop.ger.corp.intel.com>

On 09/05/2014 03:52 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 11:31:09AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>> compiler: Allow 1- and 2-byte smp_load_acquire() and smp_store_release()
>>
>> CPUs without single-byte and double-byte loads and stores place some
>> "interesting" requirements on concurrent code.  For example (adapted
>> from Peter Hurley's test code), suppose we have the following structure:
>>     
>>     	struct foo {
>>     		spinlock_t lock1;
>>     		spinlock_t lock2;
>>     		char a; /* Protected by lock1. */
>>     		char b; /* Protected by lock2. */
>>     	};
>>     	struct foo *foop;
>>     
>> Of course, it is common (and good) practice to place data protected
>> by different locks in separate cache lines.  However, if the locks are
>> rarely acquired (for example, only in rare error cases), and there are
>> a great many instances of the data structure, then memory footprint can
>> trump false-sharing concerns, so that it can be better to place them in
>> the same cache cache line as above.
>>
>> But if the CPU does not support single-byte loads and stores, a store
>> to foop->a will do a non-atomic read-modify-write operation on foop->b,
>> which will come as a nasty surprise to someone holding foop->lock2.  So we
>> now require CPUs to support single-byte and double-byte loads and stores.
>> Therefore, this commit adjusts the definition of __native_word() to allow
>> these sizes to be used by smp_load_acquire() and smp_store_release().
> 
> So does this patch depends on a patch that removes pre EV56 alpha
> support? I'm all for removing that, but I need to see the patch merged
> before we can do this.

I'm working on that but Alpha's Kconfig is not quite straightforward.


... and I'm wondering if I should _remove_ pre-EV56 configurations or
move the default choice and produce a warning about unsupported Alpha
CPUs instead?

Regards,
Peter Hurley

[ How does one do a red popup in kbuild?
  The 'comment' approach is too subtle.
]




  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-05 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20140712181328.GA8738@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <54079B70.4050200@hurleysoftware.com>
     [not found]   ` <1409785893.30640.118.camel@pasglop>
     [not found]     ` <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D17487172@AcuExch.aculab.com>
     [not found]       ` <1409824374.4246.62.camel@pasglop>
     [not found]         ` <5408E458.3@zytor.com>
2014-09-05  0:59           ` bit fields && data tearing Peter Hurley
2014-09-05  2:08             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-05  8:16               ` Michael Cree
2014-09-05 18:09                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 18:31                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 19:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-05 20:01                       ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2014-09-05 20:12                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-05 20:15                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-05 20:19                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 18:50                   ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 19:05                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 19:24                       ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 20:09                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 19:38                       ` Marc Gauthier
2014-09-05 20:14                         ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 20:34                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-05 20:42                             ` Michael Cree
2014-09-05 20:43                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 20:48                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-05 21:05                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05 20:39                           ` Michael Cree
2014-09-05 21:12                             ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 21:27                               ` Michael Cree
2014-09-05 20:42                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-05  2:08             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-05 15:31               ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-05 15:41                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-08 17:52                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-08 17:59                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-08 19:17                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-09 11:18                         ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-08 22:47                       ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-09  1:59                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-09 11:14                         ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-11 10:04                         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-11 16:16                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-11 20:01                           ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-14 23:24                             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-22 19:51                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-23 18:19                               ` Peter Hurley
2014-09-23 18:39                                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-09-08 18:13                     ` James Bottomley
2014-09-10 20:18                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-10 21:10                       ` Rob Landley
     [not found]     ` <21512.10628.412205.873477@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
     [not found]       ` <20140904090952.GW17454@tucnak.redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <540859EC.5000407@hurleysoftware.com>
     [not found]           ` <20140904175044.4697aee4@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk>
     [not found]             ` <5408C0AB.6050801@hurleysoftware.com>
     [not found]               ` <5408E4A3.2060303@zytor.com>
     [not found]                 ` <20140905001751.GL5001@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2014-09-05  1:57                   ` Peter Hurley

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