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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>, fujita.tomonori@gmail.com
Cc: aliceryhl@google.com, lyude@redhat.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] rust: hrtimer: use READ_ONCE instead of read_volatile
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2026 13:37:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikdej4s1.fsf@t14s.mail-host-address-is-not-set> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260101.130012.2122315449079707392.fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>

"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 11:11:23 +0900 (JST)
> FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 12:22:28 +0000
>> Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Using `READ_ONCE` is the correct way to read the `node.expires` field.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
>>> ---
>>>  rust/kernel/time/hrtimer.rs | 8 +++-----
>>>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/rust/kernel/time/hrtimer.rs b/rust/kernel/time/hrtimer.rs
>>> index 856d2d929a00892dc8eaec63cebdf547817953d3..e2b7a26f8aade972356c3eb5f6489bcda3e2e849 100644
>>> --- a/rust/kernel/time/hrtimer.rs
>>> +++ b/rust/kernel/time/hrtimer.rs
>>> @@ -239,11 +239,9 @@ pub fn expires(&self) -> HrTimerInstant<T>
>>>          // - Timers cannot have negative ktime_t values as their expiration time.
>>>          // - There's no actual locking here, a racy read is fine and expected
>>>          unsafe {
>>> -            Instant::from_ktime(
>>> -                // This `read_volatile` is intended to correspond to a READ_ONCE call.
>>> -                // FIXME(read_once): Replace with `read_once` when available on the Rust side.
>>> -                core::ptr::read_volatile(&raw const ((*c_timer_ptr).node.expires)),
>>> -            )
>>> +            Instant::from_ktime(kernel::sync::READ_ONCE(
>>> +                &raw const (*c_timer_ptr).node.expires,
>>> +            ))
>>>          }
>>
>> Do we actually need READ_ONCE() here? I'm not sure but would it be
>> better to call the C-side API?
>>
>> diff --git a/rust/helpers/time.c b/rust/helpers/time.c
>> index 67a36ccc3ec4..73162dea2a29 100644
>> --- a/rust/helpers/time.c
>> +++ b/rust/helpers/time.c
>> @@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
>>
>>  #include <linux/delay.h>
>>  #include <linux/ktime.h>
>> +#include <linux/hrtimer.h>
>>  #include <linux/timekeeping.h>
>>
>>  void rust_helper_fsleep(unsigned long usecs)
>> @@ -38,3 +39,8 @@ void rust_helper_udelay(unsigned long usec)
>>  {
>>  	udelay(usec);
>>  }
>> +
>> +__rust_helper ktime_t rust_helper_hrtimer_get_expires(const struct hrtimer *timer)
>> +{
>> +	return timer->node.expires;
>> +}
>
> Sorry, of course this should be:
>
> +__rust_helper ktime_t rust_helper_hrtimer_get_expires(const struct hrtimer *timer)
> +{
> +	return hrtimer_get_expires(timer);
> +}
>

This is a potentially racy read. As far as I recall, we determined that
using read_once is the proper way to handle the situation.

I do not think it makes a difference that the read is done by C code.


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-06 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-31 12:22 [PATCH 0/5] Add READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE to Rust Alice Ryhl
2025-12-31 12:22 ` [PATCH 1/5] arch: add CONFIG_ARCH_USE_CUSTOM_READ_ONCE for arm64/alpha Alice Ryhl
2025-12-31 12:22 ` [PATCH 2/5] rust: sync: add READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE Alice Ryhl
2026-01-06 12:29   ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-06 12:53     ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-31 12:22 ` [PATCH 3/5] rust: sync: support using bool with READ_ONCE Alice Ryhl
2025-12-31 15:25   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-06 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-06 12:51     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-06 18:12     ` Gary Guo
2026-01-07  8:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-07 18:12         ` Gary Guo
2025-12-31 12:22 ` [PATCH 4/5] rust: hrtimer: use READ_ONCE instead of read_volatile Alice Ryhl
2026-01-01  2:11   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-01-01  4:00     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-01-06 12:37       ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2026-01-06 13:28         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-01-07 10:11           ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-07 11:22             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-01-07 18:21               ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-09  2:10                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-01-09 10:42                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-07 11:51             ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-07 12:48               ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-06 15:23         ` Gary Guo
2026-01-06 18:43           ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-07  0:47             ` John Hubbard
2026-01-07  1:08               ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-07  2:59                 ` John Hubbard
2026-01-07  1:18             ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-31 12:22 ` [PATCH 5/5] rust: fs: " Alice Ryhl
2026-01-21  0:47   ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-31 15:12 ` [PATCH 0/5] Add READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE to Rust Gary Guo
2026-01-01  0:53   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-01  1:13     ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-06 12:41       ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-06 13:09         ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-06 14:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-06 18:18             ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-06 19:28               ` Marco Elver
2026-01-09  2:09                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-09 12:00                   ` Marco Elver
2026-01-07  8:43               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-07 19:17                 ` Paul E. McKenney

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