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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Ilpo Järvinen"
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 6/7] serial: General support for multipoint addresses
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 16:09:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YioGmu+KC9WT0KoG@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220309190521.GA9832-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 08:05:21PM +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 11:48:01AM +0200, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> > On Sun, 6 Mar 2022, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 02, 2022 at 11:56:05AM +0200, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> > > > This change is necessary for supporting devices with RS485
> > > > multipoint addressing [*].
> > > 
> > > If this is only used with RS485, why can't we just store the
> > > addresses in struct serial_rs485 and use the existing TIOCSRS485
> > > and TIOCGRS485 ioctls?  There's 20 bytes of padding left in
> > > struct serial_rs485 which you could use.  No need to add more
> > > user-space ABI.
> > 
> > It could if it is agreed that serial multipoint addressing is just
> > a thing in RS-485 and nowhere else? In that case, there is no point
> > in adding more generic support for it.
> 
> It's just that the above-quoted sentence in the commit message
> specifically mentions RS485.  If you intend to use it with RS232
> as well, that should be made explicit, otherwise one wonders why
> it wasn't integrated into struct serial_rs485.
> 
> I have no idea how common 9th bit addressing mode is with RS232.
> Goggle turns up links saying it's mainly used with RS485, "but also
> RS232".  Since RS232 isn't a bus but a point-to-point link,
> 9th bit addressing doesn't seem to make as much sense.

In my student years I have an exercise to use 9-bit addressing mode on RS232.
Obviously I forgot all of the details, but I remember that that has a practical
application.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-10 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220302095606.14818-1-ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
2022-03-02  9:56 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] serial: termbits: ADDRB to indicate 9th bit addressing mode Ilpo Järvinen
     [not found] ` <20220302095606.14818-1-ilpo.jarvinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2022-03-02  9:56   ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] serial: General support for multipoint addresses Ilpo Järvinen
2022-03-06 19:40     ` Lukas Wunner
2022-03-07  9:48       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2022-03-09 19:05         ` Lukas Wunner
2022-03-10 12:29           ` Ilpo Järvinen
     [not found]           ` <20220309190521.GA9832-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2022-03-10 14:09             ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]

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