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From: Liang Yang <liang.yang@amlogic.com>
To: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
Cc: Arseniy Krasnov <avkrasnov@sberdevices.ru>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>,
	Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
	Jianxin Pan <jianxin.pan@amlogic.com>,
	Yixun Lan <yixun.lan@amlogic.com>,
	oxffffaa@gmail.com, kernel@sberdevices.ru,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"yonghui.yu" <yonghui.yu@amlogic.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: clear OOB buffer before read
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:32:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c61eaae-053e-5768-a533-70b2ff0cc95d@amlogic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230412163214.0c764bb3@xps-13>

Hi Miquel,

On 2023/4/12 22:32, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> [ EXTERNAL EMAIL ]
> 
> Hello,
> 
> liang.yang@amlogic.com wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:04:28 +0800:
> 
>> Hi Miquel and Arseniy,
>>
>> On 2023/4/12 20:57, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>>> [ EXTERNAL EMAIL ]
>>>
>>> Hi Arseniy,
>>>
>>> avkrasnov@sberdevices.ru wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:22:26 +0300:
>>>    
>>>> On 12.04.2023 15:18, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>>>>> Hi Arseniy,
>>>>>
>>>>> avkrasnov@sberdevices.ru wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2023 13:14:52 +0300:
>>>>>     >>>> On 12.04.2023 12:36, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Arseniy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> avkrasnov@sberdevices.ru wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:20:55 +0300:
>>>>>>>       >>>>>> On 12.04.2023 10:44, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Arseniy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AVKrasnov@sberdevices.ru wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:16:58 +0300:
>>>>>>>>>         >>>>>>>> This NAND reads only few user's bytes in ECC mode (not full OOB), so
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This NAND reads" does not look right, do you mean "Subpage reads do
>>>>>>>>> not retrieve all the OOB bytes,"?
>>>>>>>>>         >>>>>>>> fill OOB buffer with zeroes to not return garbage from previous reads
>>>>>>>>>> to user.
>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise 'nanddump' utility prints something like this for just erased
>>>>>>>>>> page:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> 0x000007f0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
>>>>>>>>>>     OOB Data: ff ff ff ff 00 00 ff ff 80 cf 22 99 cb ad d3 be
>>>>>>>>>>     OOB Data: 63 27 ae 06 16 0a 2f eb bb dd 46 74 41 8e 88 6e
>>>>>>>>>>     OOB Data: 38 a1 2d e6 77 d4 05 06 f2 a5 7e 25 eb 34 7c ff
>>>>>>>>>>     OOB Data: 38 ea de 14 10 de 9b 40 33 16 6a cc 9d aa 2f 5e
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Arseniy Krasnov <AVKrasnov@sberdevices.ru>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>    drivers/mtd/nand/raw/meson_nand.c | 5 +++++
>>>>>>>>>>    1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/mtd/nand/raw/meson_nand.c b/drivers/mtd/nand/raw/meson_nand.c
>>>>>>>>>> index f84a10238e4d..f2f2472cb511 100644
>>>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/mtd/nand/raw/meson_nand.c
>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/mtd/nand/raw/meson_nand.c
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -858,9 +858,12 @@ static int meson_nfc_read_page_sub(struct nand_chip *nand,
>>>>>>>>>>    static int meson_nfc_read_page_raw(struct nand_chip *nand, u8 *buf,
>>>>>>>>>>    				   int oob_required, int page)
>>>>>>>>>>    {
>>>>>>>>>> +	struct mtd_info *mtd = nand_to_mtd(nand);
>>>>>>>>>>    	u8 *oob_buf = nand->oob_poi;
>>>>>>>>>>    	int ret;
>>>>>>>>>>    >>>>>>>> +	memset(oob_buf, 0, mtd->oobsize);
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm surprised raw reads do not read the entire OOB?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes! Seems in case of raw access (what i see in this driver) number of OOB bytes read
>>>>>>>> still depends on ECC parameters: for each portion of data covered with ECC code we can
>>>>>>>> read it's ECC code and "user bytes" from OOB - it is what i see by dumping DMA buffer by
>>>>>>>> printk(). For example I'm working with 2K NAND pages, each page has 2 x 1K ECC blocks.
>>>>>>>> For each ECC block I have 16 OOB bytes which I can access by read/write. Each 16 bytes
>>>>>>>> contains 2 bytes of user's data and 14 bytes ECC codes. So when I read page in raw mode
>>>>>>>> controller returns 32 bytes (2 x (2 + 14)) of OOB. While OOB is reported as 64 bytes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In all modes, when you read OOB, you should get the full OOB. The fact
>>>>>>> that ECC correction is enabled or disabled does not matter. If the NAND
>>>>>>> features OOB sections of 64 bytes, you should get the 64 bytes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What happens sometimes, is that some of the bytes are not protected
>>>>>>> against bitflips, but the policy is to return the full buffer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, so to clarify case for this NAND controller:
>>>>>> 1) In both ECC and raw modes i need to return the same raw OOB data (e.g. user bytes
>>>>>>      + ECC codes)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you need to cover the same amount of data, yes. But in the ECC
>>>>> case the data won't be raw (at least not all of it).
>>>>
>>>> So "same amount of data", in ECC mode current implementation returns only user OOB bytes (e.g.
>>>> OOB data excluding ECC codes), in raw it returns user bytes + ECC codes. IIUC correct
>>>> behaviour is to always return user bytes + ECC codes as OOB data even in ECC mode ?
>>>
>>> If the page are 2k+64B you should read 2k+64B when OOB are requested.
>>>
>>> If the controller only returns 2k+32B, then perform a random read to
>>> just move the read pointer to mtd->size + mtd->oobsize - 32 and
>>> retrieve the missing 32 bytes?
>>
>> 1) raw read can read out the whole page data 2k+64B, decided by the len in the controller raw read command:
>> 	cmd = (len & GENMASK(5, 0)) | scrambler | DMA_DIR(dir);
>> after that, the missing oob bytes(not used) can be copied from meson_chip->data_buf. so the implementation of meson_nfc_read_page_raw() is like this if need.
>> 	{
>> 		......
>> 		meson_nfc_read_page_sub(nand, page, 1);
>> 		meson_nfc_get_data_oob(nand, buf, oob_buf);
>> 		oob_len = (nand->ecc.bytes + 2) * nand->ecc.steps;
>> 		memcpy(oob_buf + oob_len, meson_chip->data_buf + oob_len, mtd->oobsize - oob_len);
>>
>> 	}
>> 2) In ECC mode, the controller can't bring back the missing OOB bytes. it can read out the user bytes and ecc bytes per meson_ooblayout_ops define.
> 
> And then (if oob_required) you can bring the missing bytes with
> something along:
> nand_change_read_column_op(chip, mtd->writesize + oob_len,
> 			   oob_buf + oob_len,
> 			   mtd->oobsize - oob_len,
> 			   false);
> Should not be a huge performance hit.

After finishing ECC mode reading, the column address internal in NAND 
device should be the right pos; it doesn't need to change the column 
again. so adding controller raw read for the missing bytes after ECC 
reading may works.

> 
>>
>>>
>>> This applies to the two modes, the only difference is:
>>> - with correction (commonly named "ECC mode"): the user bytes and ECC
>>>     bytes should be fixed if there are any bitflips
>>> - without correction (commonly referred as "raw mode"): no correction
>>>     applies, if there are bitflips, give them
>>>
>>> Please mind the raw mode can be slow, it's meant for debugging and
>>> testing, mainly. Page reads however should be fast, so if just moving
>>> the column pointer works, then do it, otherwise we'll consider
>>> returning FFs.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Miquèl
>>>    
>>
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Miquèl
> 

-- 
Thanks,
Liang

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-13  5:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-12  6:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] refactoring and fix for Meson NAND Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12  6:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: fix NAND access for read/write Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12  9:37   ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 10:24     ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 12:03       ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 13:30         ` Liang Yang
2023-04-13  5:10           ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-13  5:57             ` Liang Yang
2023-04-17  6:47               ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-17 13:54                 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-17 14:10                   ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-19 19:43                     ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-20 14:22                       ` Liang Yang
2023-04-21  5:57                         ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-26  7:53                           ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-26 12:17                       ` Liang Yang
2023-04-26 14:47                         ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-04  6:16                           ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-10 11:34                             ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-11 10:43                               ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12  6:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: replace GENMASK() macro with define Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12  7:37   ` Neil Armstrong
2023-04-12 10:06   ` David Laight
2023-04-12 10:11     ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12  6:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: check buffer length Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12  7:39   ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12  6:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: clear OOB buffer before read Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12  7:44   ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12  7:47     ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12  9:20     ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12  9:36       ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 10:14         ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 10:51           ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 11:36             ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 11:43               ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-12 11:47                 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 12:28                 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 12:18           ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 12:22             ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 12:57               ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 14:04                 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 14:32                   ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13  5:32                     ` Liang Yang [this message]
2023-04-13  6:11                       ` Liang Yang
2023-04-13  7:00                         ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-13  8:22                           ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13  9:36                             ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-13 10:22                               ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13 10:35                                 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-18  5:12                                   ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-18 12:24                                     ` Liang Yang
2023-04-18 12:44                                       ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-18 13:25                                         ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-18 14:57                                           ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-18 15:07                                             ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-19  3:05                                             ` Liang Yang
2023-04-19  6:41                                               ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-20  9:37                                                 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-26 13:51                                                   ` Liang Yang
2023-04-26 14:46                                                     ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-02  9:59                                                       ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-02 10:11                                                         ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-02 11:27                                                           ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-02 11:32                                                             ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-02 12:17                                                               ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-02 12:24                                                                 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-02 13:05                                                                   ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-02 16:13                                                                     ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-03  8:03                                                                       ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-03 10:23                                                                         ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-04 11:37                                                                           ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-04 12:17                                                                             ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-04 12:31                                                                               ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-03 19:48                                                                         ` Richard Weinberger
2023-05-04 11:40                                                                           ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-13  8:22                       ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 19:15                   ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-12 20:56                     ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13  9:27                       ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-13 10:29                         ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13 14:03                           ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-12  6:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: remove unneeded bitwise OR with zeroes Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12  7:45 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] refactoring and fix for Meson NAND Miquel Raynal

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