From: Hans Zhang <18255117159@163.com>
To: Niklas Cassel <cassel@kernel.org>, Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: lpieralisi@kernel.org, kwilczynski@kernel.org,
bhelgaas@google.com, heiko@sntech.de, mani@kernel.org,
yue.wang@amlogic.com, pali@kernel.org, neil.armstrong@linaro.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/2] PCI: Configure root port MPS during host probing
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2025 00:32:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <161d6789-4e7f-456a-91ed-9ef682187eae@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aQoU-JhWz6IYTpGi@ryzen>
On 2025/11/4 23:00, Niklas Cassel wrote:
> Hello Hans,
>
> Any chance that you have time to re-spin this series?
>
> I've seen some new DWC based drivers like NXP that also want to
> configure MPS.
>
> Most likely we know the reason... The PCI core does not change it
> without this series.
>
Hi Niklas,
I will modify a version based on Bjorn and your opinions and then send
it out.
Best regards,
Hans
>
> Kind regards,
> Niklas
>
> On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 12:13:43PM +0200, Niklas Cassel wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 12:48:28PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:55:06PM +0800, Hans Zhang wrote:
>>>> Current PCIe initialization logic may leave root ports operating with
>>>> non-optimal Maximum Payload Size (MPS) settings. While downstream device
>>>> configuration is handled during bus enumeration, root port MPS values
>>>> inherited from firmware or hardware defaults ...
>>>
>>> Apparently Root Port MPS configuration is different from that for
>>> downstream devices?
>>
>> pci_host_probe() will call pci_scan_root_bus_bridge(), which will call
>> pci_scan_single_device(), which will call pci_device_add(), which will
>> call pci_configure_device(), which will call pci_configure_mps().
>>
>> This will be done for both bridges and endpoints.
>>
>> The bridge will be scanned/added first, before devices behind the bridge.
>>
>>
>> While pci_configure_device()/pci_configure_mps() will be called for both
>> bridges and endpoints, pci_configure_mps() will do an early return for
>> devices where pci_upstream_bridge() returns NULL, i.e. for devices where
>> that does not have an upstream bridge, i.e. for the root bridge itself:
>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v6.17-rc4/drivers/pci/probe.c#L2181-L2182
>>
>> So MPS will not be touched for root bridges.
>>
>> This patch ensures that MPS for root bridges gets initialized to MPSS
>> (Max supported MPS).
>>
>> Later, when pci_configure_device()/pci_configure_mps() is called for a
>> device behind the bridge, if the MPSS of the device behind the bridge is
>> smaller than the MPS of the bridge, the code reduces the MPS of the bridge:
>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v6.17-rc4/drivers/pci/probe.c#L2205
>>
>>
>> My only question with this patch is if there is a bridge behind a bridge,
>> will the bridge behind the bridge still have pci_pcie_type() ==
>> PCI_EXP_TYPE_ROOT_PORT ?
>>
>> If so, perhaps we should modify this patch from:
>>
>> + if (pci_pcie_type(dev) == PCI_EXP_TYPE_ROOT_PORT &&
>> + pcie_bus_config != PCIE_BUS_TUNE_OFF) {
>> + pcie_write_mps(dev, 128 << dev->pcie_mpss);
>> + }
>> +
>> if (!bridge || !pci_is_pcie(bridge))
>> return;
>>
>>
>> to:
>>
>> + if (!bridge && pci_pcie_type(dev) == PCI_EXP_TYPE_ROOT_PORT &&
>> + pcie_bus_config != PCIE_BUS_TUNE_OFF) {
>> + pcie_write_mps(dev, 128 << dev->pcie_mpss);
>> + }
>> +
>> if (!bridge || !pci_is_pcie(bridge))
>> return;
>>
>>
>>
>>>> During host controller probing phase, when PCIe bus tuning is enabled,
>>>> the implementation now configures root port MPS settings to their
>>>> hardware-supported maximum values. Specifically, when configuring the MPS
>>>> for a PCIe device, if the device is a root port and the bus tuning is not
>>>> disabled (PCIE_BUS_TUNE_OFF), the MPS is set to 128 << dev->pcie_mpss to
>>>> match the Root Port's maximum supported payload size. The Max Read Request
>>>> Size (MRRS) is subsequently adjusted through existing companion logic to
>>>> maintain compatibility with PCIe specifications.
>>>>
>>>> Note that this initial setting of the root port MPS to the maximum might
>>>> be reduced later during the enumeration of downstream devices if any of
>>>> those devices do not support the maximum MPS of the root port.
>>>>
>>>> Explicit initialization at host probing stage ensures consistent PCIe
>>>> topology configuration before downstream devices perform their own MPS
>>>> negotiations. This proactive approach addresses platform-specific
>>>> requirements where controller drivers depend on properly initialized
>>>> root port settings, while maintaining backward compatibility through
>>>> PCIE_BUS_TUNE_OFF conditional checks. Hardware capabilities are fully
>>>> utilized without altering existing device negotiation behaviors.
>>>
>>> This last paragraph seems kind of like marketing without any real
>>> content. Is there something important in there?
>>>
>>> Nits:
>>> s/root port/Root Port/
>>>
>>> Reword "implementation now configures" to be clear about whether "now"
>>> refers to before this patch or after.
>>>
>>> Update the MRRS "to maintain compatibility" part. I'm dubious about
>>> there being a spec compatibility issue with respect to MRRS. Cite the
>>> relevant section if there is an issue.
>>
>> I'm not sure why the commit message mentions MRRS at all.
>>
>> Sure, pcie_write_mrrs() might set MRRS to MPS, but that is existing logic
>> and not really related to the change in this patch IMO.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Niklas
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-04 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-20 15:55 [PATCH v5 0/2] Configure root port MPS during host probing Hans Zhang
2025-06-20 15:55 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] PCI: " Hans Zhang
2025-06-23 10:58 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-09-02 17:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-03 17:11 ` Hans Zhang
2025-09-03 17:35 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-04 10:13 ` Niklas Cassel
2025-11-04 15:00 ` Niklas Cassel
2025-11-04 16:32 ` Hans Zhang [this message]
2025-06-20 15:55 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] PCI: dwc: Remove redundant MPS configuration Hans Zhang
2025-06-20 16:05 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] Configure root port MPS during host probing Hans Zhang
2025-06-23 9:03 ` Niklas Cassel
2025-07-16 7:41 ` Niklas Cassel
2025-08-13 12:42 ` Niklas Cassel
2025-09-02 8:33 ` Niklas Cassel
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