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From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org,
	Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pwm: meson: Simplify using dev_err_probe()
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 15:19:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231211141900.x6tpyctch5fv3uqf@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZXbsDRslZNKCeJF9@orome.fritz.box>


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Hello,

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 12:01:33PM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 08:06:20PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 04:52:57PM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > This is a lot of churn for very little gain.
> > 
> > We seem to have different conceptions of churn. Each hunk here is an
> > improvement for both SLOC count and usefulness of the generated error
> > message.
> > 
> > 	failed to register somename: -5
> > 
> > is worse than
> > 
> > 	error EIO: failed to register somename
> > 
> > , isn't it?
> 
> That's entirely subjective.

It's not. You and me both know that -5 is EIO. But there are quite a few
people who don't. And for other error codes I'm not that fluent. (Do you
know -2 and -19?) Also some constants are architecture specific, so e.g.
-11 is -35 on alpha.

> I think the first version is just fine. I,
> and I suspect most developers will, know what to do with either of those
> error messages.

Error messages aren't only for (kernel) developers. If you don't know
that the kernel uses negative error numbers as return codes, the
translation of -5 to EIO is even further away than opening
/usr/include/errno.h.
 
> > > None of these functions are ever going to return -EPROBE_DEFER. And
> > > yes, I know that function's doc says that it is "deemed acceptable to
> > > use" elsewhere. However, the existing error messages are just fine, no
> > > need to churn just for the sake of it.
> > 
> > We had this disagreement already before. Yes dev_err_probe() is useful
> > for three reasons and this driver only benefits from two of these.
> > That's IMHO still one reason more than needed to justify such a change.
> 
> I disagree. There are certainly cases where dev_err_probe() can be a
> significant improvement, but there are others where the improvement is
> very minor (if there's any at all) and in my opinion the churn isn't
> justified.

What is churn for you? Many changes? Big changes? For me churn is only a
big amount of changes where a considerable part cancels out if it was
squashed together. For you this concept seems to be broader.

> Otherwise we'll just forever keep rewriting the same code
> over and over again because somebody comes up with yet another variant
> of mostly the same code.

If there is an improvement in each adaption that's fine for me.
 
> > And if you think that a function should only be used if all advantages
> > are useful for the caller, let us reconsider if we really need capture
> > support in the pwm framework as only two of the 68 drivers make use of
> > it.
> 
> That's a ridiculous argument and you know it. You are comparing apples
> to oranges.

I would have been surprised if it had convinced you, but I honestly
think there is a (admittedly small) point.

Best regards
Uwe

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Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-König            |
Industrial Linux Solutions                 | https://www.pengutronix.de/ |

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-11 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 21:48 [PATCH] pwm: meson: Simplify using dev_err_probe() Uwe Kleine-König
2023-12-08 15:52 ` Thierry Reding
2023-12-08 19:06   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-12-11 11:01     ` Thierry Reding
2023-12-11 14:19       ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2023-12-11 15:24         ` Thierry Reding
2023-12-11 16:44           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-12-12 20:33           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-12-20 15:59             ` Thierry Reding
2023-12-21  9:21               ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: pwm: Thierry steps down, Uwe takes over Uwe Kleine-König
2023-12-21  9:23                 ` Neil Armstrong
2023-12-21  9:57                 ` Thierry Reding
2023-12-21 11:17                   ` Uwe Kleine-König

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