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From: Jeffrey Altman <jaltman-hRzEac23uH1Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] afs: Add metadata xattrs
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 22:37:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01f6dcaa-b310-63fa-f43d-2acf44d734c3@auristor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170709010155.3nql5ixdeozemgfd-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>


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On 7/8/2017 9:01 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 12:44:54PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> Yeah, I think attributes are likely much better than some random crazy
>> ioctl interface. They can be listed with generic tools, and have
>> various scripting interfaces in ways that ioctl's do not sanely have.
> 
> I personally don't have a particular problem with these xattrs.  For
> one thing, they are read-only.  You use them just to find out the AFS
> cell, the AFS "fid", and the AFS volume name.
> 
> I think the place where people will start getting nervous is when we
> start adding "write-only" xattrs or where writing to an xattr causes a
> side-effect to take place.

Ted,

The list of AFS pioctls and the proposed alternatives for kAFS are
listed at

  https://www.infradead.org/~dhowells/kafs/user_interface.html

While it is true that the majority of the proposed xattrs are read-only
properties of AFS objects (cell, volume, fid, servers, sec_class,
sec_mode) there is one exception that is read-write (acls).  AuriStorFS
permits acls to be set per-file; there was some per-file acl work begun
for OpenAFS but it was never completed.

Is there an alternative for fetching and setting ACLs that should be
considered?

Jeffrey Altman





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      parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-09  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <149935261019.29744.8564287571048506851.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
     [not found] ` <149935262759.29744.6299062653432480230.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
2017-07-06 15:23   ` [PATCH 2/2] afs: Add metadata xattrs Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-06 16:14   ` David Howells
2017-07-06 18:27     ` Andreas Dilger
2017-07-08 19:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-09  1:01         ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]           ` <20170709010155.3nql5ixdeozemgfd-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-09  2:37             ` Jeffrey Altman [this message]

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