From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mathieu Desnoyers Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 20:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1020760632.10855.1530577391822.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> References: <20180702223143.4663-1-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> <415287289.10831.1530572418907.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> <825871008.10839.1530573419561.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> <010001645d81f652-8a506dd2-cd49-47f9-950a-24ef52bda9f7-000000@email.amazonses.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <010001645d81f652-8a506dd2-cd49-47f9-950a-24ef52bda9f7-000000@email.amazonses.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Chris Lameter Cc: Linus Torvalds , Thomas Gleixner , linux-kernel , linux-api , Peter Zijlstra , "Paul E. McKenney" , Boqun Feng , Andy Lutomirski , Dave Watson , Paul Turner , Andrew Morton , Russell King , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" , Andi Kleen , Ben Maurer , rostedt , Josh Triplett , Catalin Marinas , Will Deacon , Micha List-Id: linux-api@vger.kernel.org ----- On Jul 2, 2018, at 8:19 PM, Chris Lameter cl@linux.com wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: > >> Are there any kind of guarantees that a __u64 update on a 32-bit architecture >> won't be torn into something daft like byte-per-byte stores when performed >> from C code ? >> >> I don't worry whether the upper bits get updated or how, but I really care >> about not having store tearing of the low bits update. > > Platforms with 32 bit word size only guarantee atomicity of a 32 bit > write or RMV instruction. > > Special instructions may exist on a platform to perform 64 bit atomic > updates. We use cmpxchg64 f.e. on Intel 32 bit platforms to guarantee > atomicity8. > > So use the macros that we have to guarantee 64 bit ops and you should be > fine. See linux/arch/x86/include/asm/atomic64_32.h We are talking about user-space here. What we need is a single instruction atomic store, similar to what WRITE_ONCE() does in the kernel. The discussion is about whether doing the user-space equivalent of a WRITE_ONCE() to a u64 on a 32-bit architecture should be considered to provide single-copy atomicity on the low 32 bits. Thanks, Mathieu -- Mathieu Desnoyers EfficiOS Inc. http://www.efficios.com