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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
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	Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
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	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] Restartable sequences system call
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 20:06:21 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224101037.7764.1470859581723.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrW-aNG5AOiRi01jnZrLm5h8u3BqT1v+2_LGWf7JohEm2g@mail.gmail.com>

----- On Aug 10, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Andy Lutomirski luto@amacapital.net wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>> ----- On Aug 10, 2016, at 4:10 AM, Andy Lutomirski luto@amacapital.net wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers
>>> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> Actually, we want copy_from_user() there. This executes upon
>>>> resume to user-space, so we can take a page fault is needed, so
>>>> no "inatomic" needed. I therefore suggest:
>>>
>>> Running the code below via exit_to_usermode_loop...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> static bool rseq_get_rseq_cs(struct task_struct *t,
>>>>                 void __user **start_ip,
>>>>                 void __user **post_commit_ip,
>>>>                 void __user **abort_ip)
>>>> {
>>>>         unsigned long ptr;
>>>>         struct rseq_cs __user *urseq_cs;
>>>>         struct rseq_cs rseq_cs;
>>>>
>>>>         if (__get_user(ptr, &t->rseq->rseq_cs))
>>>>                 return false;
>>>>         if (!ptr)
>>>>                 return true;
>>>> #ifdef CONFIG_COMPAT
>>>>         if (in_compat_syscall()) {
>>>>                 urseq_cs = compat_ptr((compat_uptr_t)ptr);
>>>>                 if (copy_from_user(&rseq_cs, urseq_cs, sizeof(*rseq_cs)))
>>>>                         return false;
>>>>                 *start_ip = compat_ptr((compat_uptr_t)rseq_cs.start_ip);
>>>>                 *post_commit_ip = compat_ptr((compat_uptr_t)rseq_cs.post_commit_ip);
>>>>                 *abort_ip = compat_ptr((compat_uptr_t)rseq_cs.abort_ip);
>>>>                 return true;
>>>>         }
>>>> #endif
>>>
>>> ...means that in_compat_syscall() is nonsense.  (It *works* there, but
>>> I can't imagine that it does anything that is actually sensible for
>>> this use.)
>>
>> Agreed that we are not per-se in a system call here. It works for
>> in_ia32_syscall(), but it may not work for in_x32_syscall().
>>
>> Then should we test for this ?
>>
>> if (!is_64bit_mm(current->mm))
>>
>> This is currently x86-specific. Is this how we are expected to test
>> the user-space pointer size in the current mm in arch-agnostic code ?
>> If so, we should implement is_64bit_mm() on all other architectures.
> 
> There is no universal concept of the user-space pointer size on x86
> because x86 code can change it via long jumps.
> 
> What are you actually trying to do?  I would guess that
> user_64bit_mode(regs) is the right thing here, because the rseq data
> structure is describing the currently executing code.

Yes, that's correct, we care about the pointer size of currently executing
code. On x86 user_64bit_mode(regs) would appear to be the right thing to do.

> 
>>
>>>
>>> Can't you just define the ABI so that no compat junk is needed?
>>> (Also, CRIU will thank you for doing that.)
>>
>> We are dealing with user-space pointers here, so AFAIU we need to
>> be aware of their size, which involves compat code. Am I missing
>> something ?
> 
> u64 is a perfectly valid, if odd, userspace pointer on all
> architecures that I know of, and it's certainly a valid userspace
> pointer on x86 32-bit userspace (the high bits will just all be zero).
> Can you just use u64?

My concern is about a 32-bit user-space putting garbage rather than zeroes
(on purpose) to fool the kernel on those upper 32 bits. Doing

  compat_ptr((compat_uptr_t)rseq_cs.start_ip)

effectively ends up clearing the upper 32 bits.

But since we only use those pointer values for comparisons, perhaps we
just don't care if a 32-bit userspace app try to shoot itself in
the foot by passing garbage upper 32 bits ?

> 
> If this would be a performance problem on ARM, then maybe that's a
> reason to use compat helpers.

We already use 64-bit values for the pointers, even on 32-bit. Normally
userspace just puts zeroes in the top bits. It's mostly a question of
clearing the top 32 bits or not when loading them in the kernel. If we
don't need to, then I can remove the compat code entirely, and we don't
care about user_64bit_mode() anymore, as you initially recommended.
Does it make sense ?

> 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> +SYSCALL_DEFINE2(rseq, struct rseq __user *, rseq, int, flags)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +    if (unlikely(flags))
>>>>>> +            return -EINVAL;
>>>>>
>>>>> (add whitespace)
>>>>
>>>> fixed.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> +    if (!rseq) {
>>>>>> +            if (!current->rseq)
>>>>>> +                    return -ENOENT;
>>>>>> +            return 0;
>>>>>> +    }
>>>
>>> This looks entirely wrong.  Setting rseq to NULL fails if it's already
>>> NULL but silently does nothing if rseq is already set?  Surely it
>>> should always succeed and it should actually do something if rseq is
>>> set.
>>
>> From the proposed rseq(2) manpage:
>>
>> "A NULL rseq value can be used to check whether rseq is registered
>> for the current thread."
>>
>> The implementation does just that: it returns -1, errno=ENOENT if no
>> rseq is currently registered, or 0 if rseq is currently registered.
> 
> I think that's problematic.  Why can't you unregister an existing
> rseq?  If you can't, how is a thread supposed to clean up after
> itself?
> 

Unregistering an existing thread rseq would require that we keep reference
counting, in case multiple libs and/or the app are using rseq. I am
trying to keep things as simple as needed.

If I understand your concern, the problematic scenario would be at
thread exit (this is my current approximate understanding of glibc
handling of library TLS variable reclaim at thread exit):

thread exits in userspace:
- glibc frees its rseq TLS memory area (in case the TLS is in a library),
- thread preempted before really exiting,
- kernel reads/writes to freed TLS memory.
  - corruption may occur (e.g. memory re-allocated by another thread already)

Am I getting it right ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

> --Andy

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-10 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-21 21:14 [RFC PATCH v7 0/7] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 2/7] tracing: instrument restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 3/7] Restartable sequences: ARM 32 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found] ` <1469135662-31512-1-git-send-email-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-21 21:14   ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <1469135662-31512-2-git-send-email-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-25 23:02       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrVq3hgLbADcx_4g6gGgp7Hf-WnnWA8gg68tPZTv2wfbDg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-26  3:02           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <1806206514.82247.1469502139408.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-03 12:27               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 16:37                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 18:31                   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1608031330000.14875-wcBtFHqTun5QOdAKl3ChDw@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-04  5:01                       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrWw0M9YLWTR7_ruxY8cW9_5XRONdw1QN+_pBp0Y63L8pA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-04  4:27                     ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-04  5:03                       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CALCETrW7t89BWXW5JbWyLVciKS1HJMXe7feopM31wkqL4AtoFA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-09 16:13                           ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-10  8:01                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 17:40                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 17:33                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                               ` <1918884375.7403.1470850424697.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-11  4:54                                 ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-10  8:13                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 18:29               ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1608031325040.14875-wcBtFHqTun5QOdAKl3ChDw@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10 16:47                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 16:59                     ` Christoph Lameter
2016-07-27 15:03       ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]         ` <20160727150352.GA32142-jkllrLZ6VuqyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-27 15:05           ` [RFC 1/4] rseq/param_test: Convert test_data_entry::count to intptr_t Boqun Feng
2016-07-27 15:05             ` [RFC 2/4] Restartable sequences: powerpc architecture support Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  3:13               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-27 15:05             ` [RFC 3/4] Restartable sequences: Wire up powerpc system call Boqun Feng
     [not found]               ` <20160727150517.26983-3-boqun.feng-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-28  3:13                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-27 15:05             ` [RFC 4/4] Restartable sequences: Add self-tests for PPC Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  2:59               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                 ` <389340521.403.1469674785661.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-28  4:43                   ` Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  7:37                     ` [RFC v2] " Boqun Feng
     [not found]                       ` <20160728073723.3884-1-boqun.feng-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-28 14:04                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                     ` <20160728044304.GC24740-jkllrLZ6VuqyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-28 13:42                       ` [RFC 4/4] " Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <20160727150517.26983-1-boqun.feng-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-28  3:07               ` [RFC 1/4] rseq/param_test: Convert test_data_entry::count to intptr_t Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28  3:10           ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-03 13:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 14:53         ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]         ` <20160803131940.GM6862-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-03 15:45           ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-07 15:36             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]               ` <468742193.3955.1470584184630.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-07 23:35                 ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                   ` <20160807233543.GB13232-jkllrLZ6VuqyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-09 13:22                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-09 20:06           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10  8:10             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]               ` <CALCETrUTpq6qX5SS170y_VtwiPc-SeR03bt-1Q98n+YMZMqopA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10 19:04                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 19:16                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 20:06                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <1224101037.7764.1470859581723.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10 20:09                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 21:01                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                             ` <1327322278.7807.1470862882633.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-11  7:23                               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]             ` <656745027.6624.1470773200334.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-09 21:33               ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                 ` <20160809213314.GK30192-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-09 22:41                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10  7:50                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 13:26                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 13:33                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 14:04                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10  8:43               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 13:57                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 14:28                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 14:44                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 13:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-21 21:14   ` [RFC PATCH v7 4/7] Restartable sequences: wire up ARM 32 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14   ` [RFC PATCH v7 5/7] Restartable sequences: x86 32/64 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 6/7] Restartable sequences: wire up x86 32/64 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 7/7] Restartable sequences: self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <CO1PR15MB09822FC140F84DCEEF2004CDDD0B0@CO1PR15MB0982.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]     ` <CO1PR15MB09822FC140F84DCEEF2004CDDD0B0-K8OqZrtvGWNkuEq+M2l22od3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-24  3:09       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]         ` <1590181502.79032.1469329777708.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-24 18:01           ` Dave Watson
     [not found]             ` <CO1PR15MB09825505EBF36E0C56AA037ADD0C0-K8OqZrtvGWNkuEq+M2l22od3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-25 16:43               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-11 23:26             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]               ` <374861479.8581.1470957990793.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-12  1:28                 ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-12  3:10                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                     ` <365498072.8664.1470971438957.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-12  3:13                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12  5:30                       ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                         ` <20160812053008.GA18611-jkllrLZ6VuqyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-12 16:35                           ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                             ` <20160812163542.GB18611-jkllrLZ6VuqyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-12 18:11                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                 ` <434180831.9286.1471025505641.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-13  1:28                                   ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                                     ` <20160813012834.GC18611-jkllrLZ6VuqyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-14 15:02                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                         ` <832944127.9855.1471186940516.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-15  0:56                                           ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                                             ` <20160815005607.GD18611-jkllrLZ6VuqyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-15 18:06                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12 19:36                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                   ` <753387169.9345.1471030573282.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-12 20:05                     ` Dave Watson
     [not found]                       ` <CO1PR15MB0982484D57E73C83E6E6DB75DD1F0-K8OqZrtvGWNkuEq+M2l22od3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-14 17:09                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-25 18:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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