From: Dave Hansen <dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Torvalds
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Cc: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>,
Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
Andrew Morton
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Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
Serge Hallyn <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v10][PATCH 08/13] Dump open file descriptors
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:25:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228166745.2971.113.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0812011258390.3256-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 13:02 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >
> > Why is this done in two steps? It first grabs a list of fd numbers
> > which needs to be validated, then goes back and turns those into 'struct
> > file's which it saves off. Is there a problem with doing that
> > fd->'struct file' conversion under the files->file_lock?
>
> Umm, why do we even worry about this?
>
> Wouldn't it be much better to make sure that all other threads are
> stopped before we snapshot, and if we cannot account for some thread (ie
> there's some elevated count in the fs/files/mm structures that we cannot
> see from the threads we've stopped), just refuse to dump.
My guess is that the mm is probably ok here, but we'll need some work on
the vfs structures, at least eventually.
The mm is nice that it has ->count separated from ->users. We can
easily compare the sum of mm->users to the number of tasks we've frozen
since mm->users has nice defined behavior.
But, we've got suckers like proc_fd_info() that do a
get/put_files_struct(). So, somebody just doing lots of looks in /proc
could stop us from ever checkpointing. Unfortunately, I know of a
number of "monitoring" programs that do just that. :)
I guess we can use the plain counts for now, and add something like
mm->users for the vfs structures in a bit.
-- Dave
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-27 1:04 [RFC v10][PATCH 00/13] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <1227747884-14150-1-git-send-email-orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 01/13] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 02/13] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <1227747884-14150-3-git-send-email-orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-28 10:45 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20081128104554.GP28946-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 18:15 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 03/13] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 04/13] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 05/13] Dump memory address space Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <1227747884-14150-6-git-send-email-orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-28 10:53 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20081128105351.GQ28946-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 18:00 ` Dave Hansen
2008-12-01 20:57 ` Oren Laadan
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 06/13] Restore " Oren Laadan
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 07/13] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 08/13] Dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <1227747884-14150-9-git-send-email-orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-28 10:19 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20081128101919.GO28946-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 17:47 ` Dave Hansen
2008-12-01 20:23 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <493447DD.7010102-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 20:51 ` Dave Hansen
2008-12-01 21:02 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0812011258390.3256-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 21:25 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2008-12-01 21:20 ` Oren Laadan
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 09/13] Restore open file descriprtors Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <1227747884-14150-10-git-send-email-orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-28 11:27 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20081128112745.GR28946-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 19:22 ` Dave Hansen
2008-12-01 20:41 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <49344C11.6090204-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 20:54 ` Dave Hansen
2008-12-01 21:00 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <49345086.4-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 21:07 ` Dave Hansen
2008-12-02 1:31 ` Dave Hansen
2008-12-02 1:12 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 10/13] External checkpoint of a task other than ourself Oren Laadan
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 11/13] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work Oren Laadan
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 12/13] Checkpoint multiple processes Oren Laadan
2008-11-27 1:04 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 13/13] Restart " Oren Laadan
2008-12-03 23:58 ` [RFC v10][PATCH 00/13] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Serge E. Hallyn
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