From: Matt Mackall <mpm-VDJrAJ4Gl5ZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg-bbCR+/B0CizivPeTLB3BmA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds
<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
Andrew Morton
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randy.dunlap-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
adobriyan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
remi.colinet-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RESEND][PATCH] Add /proc/mempool to display mempool usage
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:20:34 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228170034.3196.107.camel@calx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84144f020812011402v3cb3ab24pf5cb6310f2d00c5b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 00:02 +0200, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi Linus,
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> >> Hmm, I thought Documentation/ABI/ was supposed to tell us what's an
> >> ABI you can depend on and what's not. I mean, you shouldn't be
> >> depending on anything but the interfaces documented in
> >> Documentation/ABI/stable/, no?
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Who is the f*cking MORON that thinks that "documentation" has any meaning
> > what-so-ever?
>
> Me, I suppose. At least that's the impression I got when being asked
> to document any new kmemtrace debugfs files, for example.
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > The fact that something is documented (whether correctly or not) has
> > absolutely _zero_ impact on anything at all. What makes something an ABI
> > is that it's useful and available. The only way something isn't an ABI is
> > by _explicitly_ making sure that it's not available even by mistake in a
> > stable form for binary use.
>
> OK, but why do we have those different ABI "stages" in
> Documentation/ABI then? The README file there seems to contradict what
> you say. Or maybe I'm reading it wrong...
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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1227980689.6354.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
[not found] ` <1227980689.6354.24.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-29 21:42 ` [RESEND][PATCH] Add /proc/mempool to display mempool usage Alexey Dobriyan
[not found] ` <20081129214207.GA6747-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-29 23:49 ` Greg KH
2008-12-01 18:12 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-12-01 19:13 ` Matt Mackall
2008-12-01 20:02 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-01 20:07 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 20:12 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0812011210030.3256-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-01 22:02 ` Pekka Enberg
[not found] ` <84144f020812011402v3cb3ab24pf5cb6310f2d00c5b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-01 22:20 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2008-12-02 2:54 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0812011843340.3256-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-04 16:02 ` Michael Kerrisk
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