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From: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"Yan, Zheng" <zheng.z.yan@linux.intel.com>,
	"Wu, Fengguang" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	manpages <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] add metadata_incore ioctl in vfs
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:48:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1295491713.1949.898.camel@sli10-conroe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110119184240.b0a6a016.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 10:42 +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:30:47 +0800 Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > > I don't know if this is worth addressing.  Perhaps require that the
> > > filp refers to the root of the fs?
> > I didn't see why this is needed, but I can limit the fip to the root of
> > the fs.
> 
> I don't think it matters much either.  The only problem I can see is if
> we were to later try to extend the ioctl into a per-file thing.
since we return page range, a metadata page might be shared by several
files, which makes the per-file thing doesn't work. For a fs using
trees, it's even more hard to distinguish a file's metadata

> > > Also, is this a privileged operation?  If not, then that might be a
> > > problem - could it be used by unprivileged users to work out which
> > > files have been opened recently or something like that?
> > it's harmless even a unprivileged user uses it. I don't think
> > unprivileged user can decode the data returned from the ioctl.
> 
> um.
> 
> Well, by doing a before-and-after thing I can use this ioctl to work
> out what metadata blocks are used when someone reads
> /my/super/secret-directory/foo.  Then I can write a program which sits
> there waiting until someone else reads /my/super/secret-directory/foo. 
> Then I can use that information to start WWIII or something.
> 
> I dunno, strange things happen.  Unless there's a good *need* to make
> this available to unprivileged users then we should not do so.
ok, looks interesting, I'll update the patch to limit unprivileged
users.

Thanks,
Shaohua


  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-20  2:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-19  1:15 [PATCH v3 1/5] add metadata_incore ioctl in vfs Shaohua Li
2011-01-19 20:41 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]   ` <20110119124158.b0348c44.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-20  2:30     ` Shaohua Li
2011-01-20  2:42       ` Andrew Morton
2011-01-20  2:48         ` Shaohua Li [this message]
2011-01-20  3:05           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]             ` <20110119190548.e1f7f01f.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-20  3:21               ` Shaohua Li
2011-01-20  4:10                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-01-20  4:41                   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-20  5:44                     ` Shaohua Li
2011-01-20  6:06                       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-24  4:29                       ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]                   ` <20110119201014.adf02a78.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-20  5:38                     ` Shaohua Li
2011-01-20  5:55                       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                         ` <20110119215510.0882db92.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-20  6:12                           ` Shaohua Li
2011-01-20  6:19                             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-20  6:29                               ` Andrew Morton
2011-01-20  6:37                               ` Shaohua Li
2011-01-20  6:45                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-20  6:27                             ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                               ` <20110119222740.fb1b5229.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-24 10:06                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-01-20  5:46                     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-20  5:55                       ` Wu Fengguang

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