From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] locking/rwsem: don't resched at the end of optimistic spinning
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:12:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1407186754.11985.7.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140804204824.GT3935@laptop>
On Mon, 2014-08-04 at 22:48 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 02:36:35PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > On 08/04/2014 03:55 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 10:36:16PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > >>For a fully preemptive kernel, a call to preempt_enable() could
> > >>potentially trigger a task rescheduling event. In the case of rwsem
> > >>optimistic spinning, the task has either gotten the lock or is going
> > >>to sleep soon. So there is no point to do rescheduling here.
> > >Uh what? Why shouldn't we preempt if we've gotten the lock? What if a
> > >FIFO task just woke up?
> >
> > I didn't mean that we shouldn't preempt if there is a higher priority task.
> > I am sure that there will be other preemption points along the way that a
> > higher priority task can take over the CPU. I just want to say that doing it
> > here may not be the best place especially if the task is going to sleep
> > soon.
> >
> > If you think this patch does not make sense, I can remove it as other
> > patches in the set has no dependency on this one.
>
> Yeah, its actively harmful, you delay preemption by an unspecified
> amount of time in case of the spin-acquire. We've had such bugs in -rt
> and they're not fun.
>
> Basically the only time you should use no_resched is if the very next
> statement is schedule().
Right, we actually added an extra resched check at essentially the same
point in the mutex spinning code :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-04 21:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-04 2:36 [PATCH 0/7] locking/rwsem: enable reader opt-spinning & writer respin Waiman Long
2014-08-04 2:36 ` [PATCH 1/7] locking/rwsem: don't resched at the end of optimistic spinning Waiman Long
2014-08-04 7:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20140804075528.GI9918-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04 18:36 ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04 20:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-04 21:12 ` Jason Low [this message]
2014-08-05 17:54 ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04 2:36 ` [PATCH 3/7] locking/rwsem: check for active writer/spinner before wakeup Waiman Long
[not found] ` <1407119782-41119-4-git-send-email-Waiman.Long-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04 21:20 ` Jason Low
2014-08-05 17:56 ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04 2:36 ` [PATCH 4/7] locking/rwsem: threshold limited spinning for active readers Waiman Long
[not found] ` <1407119782-41119-5-git-send-email-Waiman.Long-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-05 4:54 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-05 5:30 ` Davidlohr Bueso
[not found] ` <1407216632.2566.22.camel-5JQ4ckphU/8SZAcGdq5asR6epYMZPwEe5NbjCUgZEJk@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-05 5:41 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-05 18:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04 2:36 ` [PATCH 5/7] locking/rwsem: move down rwsem_down_read_failed function Waiman Long
2014-08-04 2:36 ` [PATCH 6/7] locking/rwsem: enables optimistic spinning for readers Waiman Long
2014-08-04 2:36 ` [PATCH 7/7] locking/rwsem: allow waiting writers to go back to optimistic spinning Waiman Long
[not found] ` <1407119782-41119-1-git-send-email-Waiman.Long-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04 2:36 ` [PATCH 2/7] locking/rwsem: more aggressive use of " Waiman Long
2014-08-04 4:09 ` Davidlohr Bueso
[not found] ` <1407119782-41119-3-git-send-email-Waiman.Long-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04 4:10 ` Jason Low
2014-08-04 4:25 ` [PATCH 0/7] locking/rwsem: enable reader opt-spinning & writer respin Davidlohr Bueso
[not found] ` <1407126313.3216.10.camel-5JQ4ckphU/8SZAcGdq5asR6epYMZPwEe5NbjCUgZEJk@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04 18:07 ` Waiman Long
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