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From: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
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	Richard Cochran
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	Steven Rostedt <rostedt-nx8X9YLhiw1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] perf: Userspace software event and ioctl
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:48:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1411728487.3852.9.camel@hornet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140925183342.GB6854-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 19:33 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > How would we select tasks that can write to a given buffer? Maybe an
> > ioctl() on a perf fd? Something like this?
> > 
> > 	ioctl(perf_fd, PERF_EVENT_IOC_ENABLE_UEVENT, pid);
> > 	ioctl(perf_fd, PERF_EVENT_IOC_DISABLE_UEVENT, pid);
> 
> No, I think there's a simpler way: this should be a regular 
> perf_attr flag, which defaults to '0' (tasks cannot do this), but 
> which can be set to 1 if the profiler explicitly allows such 
> event injection.

As in: allows *all* tasks to inject the data? Are you sure we don't want
more fine-grained control, in particular per task?

If we have two buffers, both created with the "injecting allowed" flag,
do we inject a given uevent into both of them?

> I.e. whether user-events are allowed is controlled by the 
> profiling/tracing context, via the regular perf syscall. It would 
> propagate into the perf context, so it would be easy to check at 
> event generation time.

It would definitely be the profiling/tracing tools that would decide if
the injection is allowed, no question about that. I just feel that it
should be able to select the tasks that can do that, not just flip a big
switch saying "everyone is welcome". Other question is: should a
non-root context be able to receive events from root processes? Wouldn't
it be a security hole (for example, it could be used as a kind of covert
channel)? Maybe we should do what ptrace does? As in: if a task can
ptrace another task, it can also receive uevents from it.

Pawel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-26 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-18 14:34 [PATCH 0/2] perf: User/kernel time correlation and event generation Pawel Moll
2014-09-18 14:34 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf: Add sampling of the raw monotonic clock Pawel Moll
     [not found]   ` <1411050873-9310-2-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-29 15:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20140929152832.GL4140-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-29 15:45         ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-18 14:34 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf: Userspace software event and ioctl Pawel Moll
2014-09-23 17:02   ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-24  7:49     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]       ` <20140924074942.GB3797-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25 17:20         ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-25 18:33           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20140925183342.GB6854-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 10:48               ` Pawel Moll [this message]
2014-09-26 11:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                   ` <20140926112312.GB9870-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 11:26                     ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-26 11:31                       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-27 17:14             ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]               ` <CAFTL4hy1d8twv2tGxc4EhCeDm7ApnH7SuK26W1yaekKhCrPMZA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-29 14:52                 ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-29 15:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20140929153257.GM4140-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-29 15:53       ` Pawel Moll
2014-11-03 14:48         ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-11-03 15:04           ` Pawel Moll
     [not found] ` <1411050873-9310-1-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18 15:02   ` [PATCH 0/2] perf: User/kernel time correlation and event generation Christopher Covington
     [not found]     ` <541AF40B.7070604-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18 15:07       ` Pawel Moll
2014-09-18 15:48         ` Christopher Covington

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