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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
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	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
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	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/18] kthread: Make it easier to correctly sleep in iterant kthreads
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 13:39:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1433763595.1495.35.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150608100107.GA3135@pathway.suse.cz>

On Mon, 2015-06-08 at 12:01 +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:

> Just to be sure. Do you suggest to use TASK_IDLE everywhere in
> kthreads or only when the uninterruptible sleep is really needed?

Always, only use INTERRUPTIBLE when you're actually interruptible, that
is you want signals or such muck to terminate your wait.

> IMHO, we should not use TASK_IDLE in freezable kthreads because
> it would break freezing.

How so? The task is IDLE, its not doing anything.

>  Well, we could freezable_schedule() but only
> on locations where it is safe to get freezed. Anyway, we need to
> be careful here.

s/freezed/frozen/

Bah, you made me look at the freezer code, karma reduction for you.

And this is the arch typical freeze point if ever there was one, you're
checking kthread_stop, if we can terminate the kthread, we can certainly
get frozen.

> BTW: What is the preferred way of freezing, please? Is it better
> to end up in the fridge or is it fine to call freezer_do_not_count();
> or set PF_NOFREEZE when it is safe?

freezable_schedule() is fine in this case.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-08 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-05 15:00 [RFC PATCH 00/18] kthreads/signal: Safer kthread API and signal handling Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 01/18] kthread: Allow to call __kthread_create_on_node() with va_list args Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 03/18] kthread: Add kthread_stop_current() Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 04/18] signal: Rename kernel_sigaction() to kthread_sigaction() and clean it up Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 07/18] kthread: Make iterant kthreads freezable by default Petr Mladek
     [not found]   ` <1433516477-5153-8-git-send-email-pmladek-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09  7:20     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20150609072003.GY21465-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09 15:53         ` Petr Mladek
     [not found]           ` <20150609155313.GC9409-KsEp0d+Q8qECVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10  4:31             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20150610043154.GG11955-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-12 13:24                 ` Petr Mladek
     [not found]                   ` <20150612132440.GH9409-KsEp0d+Q8qECVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-13 23:22                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <20150613232222.GB346-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-15  9:28                         ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 09/18] kthread: Make it easier to correctly sleep in iterant kthreads Petr Mladek
     [not found]   ` <1433516477-5153-10-git-send-email-pmladek-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-05 16:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20150605161021.GJ19282-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 10:01         ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-08 11:39           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-06-09 15:25             ` Petr Mladek
     [not found]               ` <20150609152526.GB9409-KsEp0d+Q8qECVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10  9:05                 ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]           ` <20150608100107.GA3135-KsEp0d+Q8qECVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09  7:32             ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-08 17:48         ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]           ` <20150608134810.3abd862b-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10  9:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-10 14:07               ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]                 ` <20150610100729.6a674c15-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11  4:28                   ` Jiri Kosina
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 10/18] jffs2: Remove forward definition of jffs2_garbage_collect_thread() Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 11/18] jffs2: Convert jffs2_gcd_mtd kthread into the iterant API Petr Mladek
     [not found]   ` <1433516477-5153-12-git-send-email-pmladek-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-06 21:16     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]       ` <20150606211648.GA15591-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-06 21:32         ` Jiri Kosina
     [not found]           ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1506062322550.12753-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-06 22:30             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]               ` <20150606223001.GA18838-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-06 22:44                 ` Jiri Kosina
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1506070034100.12753-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-06 22:58                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 13/18] ring_buffer: Use iterant kthreads API in the ring buffer benchmark Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 14/18] ring_buffer: Allow to cleanly freeze the ring buffer benchmark kthreads Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 16/18] kthread: Support interruptible sleep with a timeout by iterant kthreads Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 18/18] jffs2: Use the new API for a sleep with a timeout Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 16:22 ` [RFC PATCH 00/18] kthreads/signal: Safer kthread API and signal handling Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]   ` <20150605162216.GK19282-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09  6:14     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20150609061446.GV21465-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10 10:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]           ` <20150610104057.GE3644-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11 22:02             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1433516477-5153-1-git-send-email-pmladek-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH 02/18] kthread: Add API for iterant kthreads Petr Mladek
     [not found]     ` <1433516477-5153-3-git-send-email-pmladek-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09  6:23       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20150609062349.GW21465-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-15 12:46           ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH 05/18] freezer/scheduler: Add freezable_cond_resched() Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH 06/18] signal/kthread: Initial implementation of kthread signal handling Petr Mladek
     [not found]     ` <1433516477-5153-7-git-send-email-pmladek-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-06 21:58       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20150606215816.GB15591-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 13:51           ` Petr Mladek
     [not found]             ` <20150608135107.GB3135-KsEp0d+Q8qECVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 21:13               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20150608211336.GB24869-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-15 13:13                   ` Petr Mladek
     [not found]                     ` <20150615131341.GN9409-KsEp0d+Q8qECVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-15 19:14                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                         ` <20150615191429.GA29727-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-16  7:54                           ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-09  7:10       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20150609071022.GX21465-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09 12:15           ` Jiri Kosina
     [not found]             ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1506091405360.12753-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10  3:13               ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH 08/18] kthread: Allow to get struct kthread_iterant from task_struct Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH 12/18] lockd: Convert the central lockd service to kthread_iterant API Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH 15/18] ring_buffer: Allow to exit the ring buffer benchmark immediately Petr Mladek
     [not found]     ` <1433516477-5153-16-git-send-email-pmladek-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 17:44       ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]         ` <20150608134417.3fb7a811-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-15 15:23           ` Petr Mladek
     [not found]             ` <20150615152313.GC3135-KsEp0d+Q8qECVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-15 15:33               ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-15 15:54                 ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH 17/18] ring_buffer: Use the new API for a sleep with a timeout in the benchmark Petr Mladek
2015-06-09  6:10   ` [RFC PATCH 00/18] kthreads/signal: Safer kthread API and signal handling Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <20150609061025.GU21465-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09  7:58       ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-17 11:34   ` Christoph Hellwig

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