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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mike.kravetz@oracle.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, fweimer@redhat.com, colm@allcosts.net,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, keescook@chromium.org,
	luto@amacapital.net, wad@chromium.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	kirill@shutemov.name, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 10:59:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1502117991.6577.13.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170807134648.GI32434@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 15:46 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 07-08-17 15:22:57, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > This is an user visible API so make sure you CC linux-api (added)
> > 
> > On Sun 06-08-17 10:04:23, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > 
> > > A further complication is the proliferation of clone flags,
> > > programs bypassing glibc's functions to call clone directly,
> > > and programs calling unshare, causing the glibc pthread_atfork
> > > hook to not get called.
> > > 
> > > It would be better to have the kernel take care of this
> > > automatically.
> > > 
> > > This is similar to the OpenBSD minherit syscall with
> > > MAP_INHERIT_ZERO:
> > > 
> > >     https://man.openbsd.org/minherit.2
> 
> I would argue that a MAP_$FOO flag would be more appropriate. Or do
> you
> see any cases where such a special mapping would need to change the
> semantic and inherit the content over the fork again?
> 
> I do not like the madvise because it is an advise and as such it can
> be
> ignored/not implemented and that shouldn't have any correctness
> effects
> on the child process.

Too late for that. VM_DONTFORK is already implemented
through MADV_DONTFORK & MADV_DOFORK, in a way that is
very similar to the MADV_WIPEONFORK from these patches.

I wonder if that was done because MAP_* flags are a
bitmap, with a very limited number of values as a result,
while MADV_* constants have an essentially unlimited
numerical namespace available.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-07 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20170806140425.20937-1-riel@redhat.com>
2017-08-07 13:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK Michal Hocko
     [not found]   ` <20170807132257.GH32434-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-07 13:46     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 14:19       ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-10 13:06         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 14:59       ` Rik van Riel [this message]
     [not found]         ` <1502117991.6577.13.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-09  9:59           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-09 12:31             ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-09 12:42             ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-10 13:05         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]           ` <20170810130531.GS23863-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 13:23             ` Colm MacCárthaigh
     [not found]               ` <CAAF6GDc2hsj-XJj=Rx2ZF6Sh3Ke6nKewABXfqQxQjfDd5QN7Ug-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 15:36                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 16:17                   ` Colm MacCárthaigh
     [not found]                     ` <CAAF6GDeno6RpHf1KORVSxUL7M-CQfbWFFdyKK8LAWd_6PcJ55Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 17:01                       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                         ` <20170810170144.GA987-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 22:09                           ` Colm MacCárthaigh
     [not found]                             ` <CAAF6GDdFjS612mx1TXzaVk1J-Afz9wsAywTEijO2TG4idxabiw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 14:06                               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                 ` <20170811140653.GO30811-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 14:11                                   ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                     ` <c8cda773-b28d-f35f-7f18-6735584cb173-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 14:24                                       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                         ` <20170811142457.GP30811-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 15:24                                           ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-11 15:31                                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 15:55       ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2017-08-07 16:02         ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2017-08-10 13:21         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 14:11           ` Michal Hocko

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