From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andrew Hunter <ahh@google.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Chris Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>W
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.17 02/21] rseq: Introduce restartable sequences system call (v12)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:35:16 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1657598086.875.1522348516598.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180329140752.12661138@gandalf.local.home>
----- On Mar 29, 2018, at 2:07 PM, rostedt rostedt@goodmis.org wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:02:33 -0400 (EDT)
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>
>> Currently, anyone using ptrace on a process has pretty much given up all
>> hopes of performance. Processes will use rseq to gain performance, not the
>> opposite, so this deterioration will be unwelcome.
>
> The ptrace path has nothing to do with ptrace anymore, and probably be
> hard to notice the performance hit. You simply set a TIF flag, and on
> exit of the syscall it jumps to a path that checks special cases
> (tracing system calls being one of them). It's called the ptrace path
> because ptrace was the first one to use it (I'm guessing, I haven't
> actually looked at the history).
Last time I checked, it's not only a jump, it's actually saving/restoring
tons of registers. Did this change recently ?
I use it for LTTng syscall tracing too. My experience so far is that it's really
terribly slow. I've been waiting on Andy Lutomirski to complete his changes in that
area to look into making this faster for syscall tracepoints.
>
> This is used to add any system call checks that are not done during
> normal operation. And this certainly falls under that category.
I know it's used for stuff like seccomp too. My guess has always been that security
people care much more about robustness than performance.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-29 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-27 16:05 [RFC PATCH for 4.17 00/21] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 01/21] uapi headers: Provide types_32_64.h Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 02/21] rseq: Introduce restartable sequences system call (v12) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 6:47 ` Boqun Feng
2018-03-28 14:06 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 14:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 14:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 11:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 14:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 15:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 16:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 12:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 14:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 15:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 15:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 15:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 17:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 20:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 21:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-03-29 13:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-29 14:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-29 15:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-29 16:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-29 18:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-29 18:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-29 18:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2018-03-29 18:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-29 18:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-01 16:13 ` Alan Cox
2018-04-02 15:03 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-02 15:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-02 15:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-03 16:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-03 20:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 03/21] arm: Add restartable sequences support Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 04/21] arm: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 05/21] x86: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 06/21] x86: Wire up restartable sequence system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 07/21] powerpc: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 08/21] powerpc: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 09/21] sched: Implement push_task_to_cpu (v2) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 10/21] cpu_opv: Provide cpu_opv system call (v6) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 15:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 17:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 11/21] x86: Wire up cpu_opv system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 12/21] powerpc: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 13/21] arm: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 14/21] selftests: lib.mk: Introduce OVERRIDE_TARGETS Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 15/21] cpu_opv: selftests: Implement selftests (v7) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 16/21] rseq: selftests: Provide rseq library (v5) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 17/21] rseq: selftests: Provide percpu_op API Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 18/21] rseq: selftests: Provide basic test Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 19/21] rseq: selftests: Provide basic percpu ops test Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 20/21] rseq: selftests: Provide parametrized tests Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 21/21] rseq: selftests: Provide Makefile, scripts, gitignore Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 19:09 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 00/21] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Peter Zijlstra
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