From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: Chris Kennelly <ckennelly@google.com>,
Peter Oskolkov <posk@google.com>, Peter Oskolkov <posk@posk.io>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
paulmck <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
carlos <carlos@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] rseq: Allow extending struct rseq
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 10:38:22 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1818805836.14259.1594823902146.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0z5xpau.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
----- On Jul 15, 2020, at 2:31 AM, Florian Weimer fw@deneb.enyo.de wrote:
> * Chris Kennelly:
>
>> When glibc provides registration, is the anticipated use case that a
>> library would unregister and reregister each thread to "upgrade" it to
>> the most modern version of interface it knows about provided by the
>> kernel?
>
> Absolutely not, that is likely to break other consumers because an
> expected rseq area becomes dormant instead.
Indeed.
>
>> There, I could assume an all-or-nothing registration of the new
>> feature--limited only by kernel availability for thread
>> homogeneity--but inconsistencies across early adopter libraries would
>> mean each thread would have to examine its own TLS to determine if a
>> feature were available.
>
> Exactly. Certain uses of seccomp can also have this effect,
> presenting a non-homogeneous view.
The nice thing about having a consistent feature-set for a given
thread group is that it allows specializing the code at thread
group startup, rather than requiring to dynamically check for
feature availability at runtime in fast-paths.
I wonder whether this kind of non-homogeneous view scenario
caused by seccomp is something we should support, or something
that should be documented as incompatible with rseq ?
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-15 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-14 3:03 [RFC PATCH 0/4] rseq: Introduce extensible struct rseq Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-14 3:03 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] selftests: rseq: Use fixed value as rseq_len parameter Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-14 3:03 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] rseq: Allow extending struct rseq Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-14 9:58 ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-14 12:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-14 13:00 ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-14 13:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-14 21:30 ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-07-15 13:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-15 13:22 ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-15 13:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-15 13:42 ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-15 13:55 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-15 14:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-15 14:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-15 14:58 ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-15 15:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-14 17:24 ` Peter Oskolkov
2020-07-14 17:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-14 18:33 ` Peter Oskolkov
2020-07-15 2:34 ` Chris Kennelly
2020-07-15 6:31 ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-15 10:59 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-15 14:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2020-07-15 14:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-15 11:38 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-15 12:33 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-15 15:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-15 15:33 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-14 3:03 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] selftests: rseq: define __rseq_abi with extensible size Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-14 3:03 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] selftests: rseq: print rseq extensible size in basic test Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-14 20:55 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] rseq: Introduce extensible struct rseq Carlos O'Donell
2020-07-15 13:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-16 13:39 ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-07-16 14:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-07-15 15:12 ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-15 15:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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