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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 35/37] x86/cet: Add PTRACE interface for CET
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 17:18:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1efbdf4c9cc624c863f27afdb980bd3a3ea75ae7.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR11MB20055995B323E98C10BA159AF9099@CY4PR11MB2005.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 16:21 +0000, Schimpe, Christina wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-11-17 at 12:25 +0000, Schimpe, Christina wrote:
> > > > Hmm, we definitely need to be able to set the SSP. Christina,
> > > > does
> > > > GDB need anything else? I thought maybe toggling SHSTK_EN?
> > > 
> > > In addition to the SSP, we want to write the CET state. For
> > > instance
> > > for inferior calls, we want to reset the IBT bits.
> > > However, we won't write states that are disallowed by HW.
> > 
> > Sorry, I should have given more background. Peter is saying we
> > should split
> > the ptrace interface so that shadow stack and IBT are separate.
> > They would also no longer necessarily mirror the CET_U MSR format.
> > Instead the kernel would expose a kernel specific format that has
> > the
> > needed bits of shadow stack support. And a separate one later for
> > IBT.
> > 
> > So the question is what does shadow stack need to support for
> > ptrace
> > besides SSP? Is it only SSP? The other features are SHSTK_EN and
> > WRSS_EN.
> > It might actually be nice to keep how these bits get flipped more
> > controlled
> > (remove them from ptrace). It looks like CRIU didn't need them.
> > 
> 
> GDB currently reads the CET_U and SSP register. However, we don’t
> necessarily have to read EB_LEG_BITMAP_BASE.
> In addition to SSP, we want to write the bits for the IBT state
> machine (TRACKER and SUPPRESS).
> However, besides that GDB does not have to write anything else.

Again, this is just about shadow stack. IBT will have a separate
interface. So based on these comments, I'll change the interface in
this patch to one for simply reading/writing SSP.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-18 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-04 22:35 [PATCH v3 00/37] Shadow stacks for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 01/37] Documentation/x86: Add CET description Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 02/37] x86/cet/shstk: Add Kconfig option for Shadow Stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 03/37] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPU feature flags for shadow stacks Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-07 17:41   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 04/37] x86/cpufeatures: Enable CET CR4 bit for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-07 18:00   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 18:19     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-07 18:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 19:19         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-07 19:30           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-11-07 19:33             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 05/37] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR and XSAVES supervisor states Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 06/37] x86/fpu: Add helper for modifying xstate Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 07/37] x86/cet: Add user control-protection fault handler Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 08/37] x86/mm: Remove _PAGE_DIRTY from kernel RO pages Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 09/37] x86/mm: Move pmd_write(), pud_write() up in the file Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 10/37] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 11/37] x86/mm: Update pte_modify for _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 12/37] x86/mm: Update ptep_set_wrprotect() and pmdp_set_wrprotect() for transition from _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 13/37] mm: Move VM_UFFD_MINOR_BIT from 37 to 38 Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-15 11:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 17:18     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 14/37] mm: Introduce VM_SHADOW_STACK for shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 15/37] x86/mm: Check Shadow Stack page fault errors Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-15 11:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 20:03     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-15 21:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 23:13         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-16 10:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 16/37] x86/mm: Update maybe_mkwrite() for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 17/37] mm: Fixup places that call pte_mkwrite() directly Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 18/37] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-15 12:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 20:40     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-15 20:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 21:49         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 19/37] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 20/37] mm/mprotect: Exclude shadow stack from preserve_write Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-15 12:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 20:41     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 21/37] mm: Re-introduce vm_flags to do_mmap() Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 22/37] mm: Don't allow write GUPs to shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 23/37] mm: Warn on shadow stack memory in wrong vma Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 24/37] x86: Introduce userspace API for CET enabling Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-15 12:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 13:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 20:55       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-15 14:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 20:55     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 25/37] x86/shstk: Add user-mode shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-15 12:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 21:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 26/37] x86/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 27/37] x86/shstk: Introduce routines modifying shstk Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-15 14:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 23:42     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-16 10:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-16 22:38         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-17 14:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-18 17:05             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-15 14:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 20:56     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 28/37] x86/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 29/37] x86/shstk: Introduce map_shadow_stack syscall Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 30/37] x86/shstk: Support wrss for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 31/37] x86: Expose thread features in /proc/$PID/status Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:35 ` [PATCH v3 32/37] x86/cet/shstk: Wire in CET interface Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:36 ` [PATCH v3 33/37] selftests/x86: Add shadow stack test Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:36 ` [PATCH v3 34/37] x86/fpu: Add helper for initing features Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:36 ` [PATCH v3 35/37] x86/cet: Add PTRACE interface for CET Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-15 14:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 22:23     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-17 12:25       ` Schimpe, Christina
2022-11-17 14:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-18 17:20           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-18 17:25             ` Schimpe, Christina
2022-11-17 19:57         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-18 16:21           ` Schimpe, Christina
2022-11-18 17:18             ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2022-11-21  7:40           ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-21 15:52             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-22  9:36               ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-04 22:36 ` [PATCH v3 36/37] x86/cet/shstk: Add ARCH_CET_UNLOCK Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-15 14:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 20:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-15 20:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15 21:00         ` Dave Hansen
2022-11-15 21:21           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-04 22:36 ` [RFC 37/37] fs/binfmt_elf: Block old shstk elf bit Rick Edgecombe
2022-11-04 22:56   ` H.J. Lu
2022-11-06  9:33     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-07 16:49       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-07 16:55         ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-07 17:37           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-07 19:10             ` H.J. Lu
2022-11-07 21:10               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-07 21:21                 ` H.J. Lu
2022-11-07 21:34                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-07 21:47                     ` H.J. Lu
2022-11-07 22:46                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-07 23:45                         ` H.J. Lu
2022-11-08  9:14                 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-07 16:49     ` Edgecombe, Rick P

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