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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Greg KH <greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Ashwin Ganti
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	Andrew Morton
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	Eric Paris <eparis-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap-/UHa2rfvQTnk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] p9auth: add p9auth driver
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:36:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100424033614.GA4180@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1zl0xo1m9.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org):
> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> > Quoting Greg KH (greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org):
> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 08:29:08PM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >> > This is a driver that adds Plan 9 style capability device
> >> > implementation.  See Documentation/p9auth.txt for a description
> >> > of how to use this.
> >> 
> >> Hm, you didn't originally write this driver, so it would be good to get
> >> some original authorship information in here to keep everything correct,
> >> right?
> >
> > That's why I left the MODULE_AUTHOR line in there - not sure what
> > else to do for that.  I'll add a comment in p9auth.txt, especially
> > pointing back to Ashwin's original paper.
> >
> >> >  Documentation/p9auth.txt     |   47 ++++
> >> >  drivers/char/Kconfig         |    2 +
> >> >  drivers/char/Makefile        |    2 +
> >> >  drivers/char/p9auth/Kconfig  |    9 +
> >> >  drivers/char/p9auth/Makefile |    1 +
> >> >  drivers/char/p9auth/p9auth.c |  517 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> 
> >> Is this code really ready for drivers/char/?  What has changed in it
> >> that makes it ok to move out of the staging tree?
> >
> > It was dropped from staging :)  I don't particularly care to see it
> > go back into staging, as opposed to working out issues out of tree
> > (assuming they are solvable).  For one thing, as you note below,
> > there is the question of whether it should be a device driver at
> > all.
> >
> >> And who is going to maintain it?  You?  Or someone else?
> >
> > If Ashwin doesn't want to maintain it, I'll do it.  Either way.
> >
> >> >  6 files changed, 578 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> >> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/p9auth.txt
> >> >  create mode 100644 drivers/char/p9auth/Kconfig
> >> >  create mode 100644 drivers/char/p9auth/Makefile
> >> >  create mode 100644 drivers/char/p9auth/p9auth.c
> >> > 
> >> > diff --git a/Documentation/p9auth.txt b/Documentation/p9auth.txt
> >> > new file mode 100644
> >> > index 0000000..14a69d8
> >> > --- /dev/null
> >> > +++ b/Documentation/p9auth.txt
> >> > @@ -0,0 +1,47 @@
> >> > +The p9auth device driver implements a plan-9 factotum-like
> >> > +capability API.  Tasks which are privileged (authorized by
> >> > +possession of the CAP_GRANT_ID privilege (POSIX capability))
> >> > +can write new capabilities to /dev/caphash.  The kernel then
> >> > +stores these until a task uses them by writing to the
> >> > +/dev/capuse device.  Each capability represents the ability
> >> > +for a task running as userid X to switch to userid Y and
> >> > +some set of groups.  Each capability may be used only once,
> >> > +and unused capabilities are cleared after two minutes.
> >> > +
> >> > +The following examples shows how to use the API.  Shell 1
> >> > +contains a privileged root shell.  Shell 2 contains an
> >> > +unprivileged shell as user 501 in the same user namespace.  If
> >> > +not already done, the privileged shell should create the p9auth
> >> > +devices:
> >> > +
> >> > +	majfile=/sys/module/p9auth/parameters/cap_major
> >> > +	minfile=/sys/module/p9auth/parameters/cap_minor
> >> > +	maj=`cat $majfile`
> >> > +	mknod /dev/caphash c $maj 0
> >> > +	min=`cat $minfile`
> >> > +	mknod /dev/capuse c $maj 1
> >> > +	chmod ugo+w /dev/capuse
> >> 
> >> That is incorrect, you don't need the cap_major/minor files at all, the
> >> device node should be automatically created for you, right?
> >
> > Hmm, where?  Not in /dev on my SLES11 partition...
> >
> >> And do you really want to do all of this control through a device node?
> >> Why?
> >
> > Well...
> >
> > At first I was thinking same as you were.  So I was going to switch
> > to a pure syscall-based approach.  But it just turned out more
> > complicated.  The factotum server would call sys_grantid(), and
> > the target task would end up doing some huge sys_setresugid() or
> > else multiple syscalls using the granted id.  It just was uglier.
> > I think there's an experimental patchset sitting somewhere I could
> > point to (if I weren't embarassed :).
> >
> > Another possibility would be to use netlink, but that doesn't
> > appear as amenable to segragation by user namespaces.  The pid
> > (presumably/hopefully global pid, as __u32) is available, so it
> > shouldn't be impossible, but a simple device with simple synchronous
> > read/write certainly has its appeal.  Firing off a message hoping
> > that at some point our credentials will be changes, less so.
> 
> pid in the netlink context is the netlink port-id.  It is a very
> different concept from struct pid.  These days netlink calls to
> the kernel are synchronous, not that I would encourage netlink
> for anything except networking code.
> 
> Can we make this a trivial filesystem?  I expect that would match
> up better with whatever plan9 userspace apps already exist,
> remove the inode double translation, and would make it much more
> reasonable to do a user namespace aware version  if and when

BTW, this current version is user namespace aware.

> that becomes necessary.

An fs actually seems overkill for two write-only files for
process-related information.  Would these actually be candidates
for new /proc files?

	/proc/grantcred - replaces /dev/caphash, for privileged
		tasks to tell the kernel about new setuid
		capabilities
	/proc/self/usecred - replaces /dev/capuse for unprivileged
		tasks to make use of a setuid capability

-serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-24  3:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20100421012749.GA21338-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21  1:29   ` [PATCH 3/3] p9auth: add p9auth driver Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20100421012908.GB24251-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21  3:04       ` Greg KH
     [not found]         ` <20100421030406.GB10258-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21  3:45           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21  4:18             ` Ashwin Ganti
2010-04-21 13:47               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20100421134759.GE16326-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 14:44                   ` Ashwin Ganti
2010-04-21  4:45             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]               ` <m1zl0xo1m9.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 13:21                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-24  3:36                 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2010-04-24 16:25                   ` ron minnich
     [not found]                     ` <n2s13426df11004240925id540ed94mc2ebafada0099ec4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-24 18:01                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-04-25  3:24                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21  9:27       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]         ` <20100421102739.6ad932fb-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 13:39           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 14:19             ` Alan Cox
     [not found]               ` <20100421151917.5ae20265-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 15:09                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 19:15                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-04-21 20:23                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-22  4:57                     ` Kyle Moffett
     [not found]                       ` <w2wf73f7ab81004212157o371c5738o10c8b6ff807ba36a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-22 14:36                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 13:55           ` Eric Paris
2010-04-21 14:30             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 10:49       ` David Howells
2010-04-21 13:40         ` Serge E. Hallyn

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