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From: jacob pan <jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov"
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	Paul Menage <menage-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizf-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
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	Arjan van de Ven <arjan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Matt Helsley <matthltc-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, v9 3/3] cgroups: introduce timer slack controller
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 04:35:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110316043545.493c7b36@jacob-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110314164652.5b44fb9e.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:46:52 -0700
Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:05:24 +0200
> Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > +Overview
> > +--------
> > +
> > +Every task_struct has timer_slack_ns value. This value uses to
> > round up +poll() and select() timeout values. This feature can be
> > useful in +mobile environment where combined wakeups are desired.
> > +
> > +Originally, prctl() was the only way to change timer slack value of
> > +a process. So you was not able change timer slack value of another
> > +process.
> > +
> > +cgroup subsys "timer_slack" implements timer slack controller. It
> > +provides a way to set minimal timer slack value for a group of
> > tasks. +If a task belongs to a cgroup with minimal timer slack
> > value higher than +task's value, cgroup's value will be applied.
> > +
> > +Timer slack controller allows to implement setting timer slack
> > value of +a process based on a policy. For example, you can create
> > foreground and +background cgroups and move tasks between them
> > based on system state.
> 
> (quoting myself from last time)
> 
> Why do we need a cgroup for this as opposed to (say) inheritance over
> fork(), or a system-wide knob, or a per-process/threadgroup knob, or
> just leaving the existing code as-is?  Presumably you felt that a
> cgroup approach is better for manageability, but you didn't tell us
> about this and you didn't explore alternative ways of solving the
> problem-which-you-didn't-describe.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm still having trouble seeing why we should merge this.  Who will
> use it, and for what reason and what benefits will they see?
> Quantified benefits, if possible!
> 
I am planning to use it for doing resource management for a mobile
device where we classify applications by groups based on priority and
trust level. Then at runtime, I plan to use timer slack as one of the
knobs to penalize/manage them at different degree to reduce power
consumption (via reduction of #wake-ups in this case).

Thanks,

Jacob

      parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-16 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-14 14:05 [PATCH, v9 0/3] Introduce timer slack controller Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-03-14 14:05 ` [PATCH, v9 1/3] hrtimer: introduce effective timer slack Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found] ` <1300111524-5666-1-git-send-email-kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 14:05   ` [PATCH, v9 2/3] hrtimer: implement PR_GET_EFFECTIVE_TIMERSLACK Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-03-14 14:05 ` [PATCH, v9 3/3] cgroups: introduce timer slack controller Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found]   ` <1300111524-5666-4-git-send-email-kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 23:46     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20110314164652.5b44fb9e.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-15  9:11         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-03-16 11:35         ` jacob pan [this message]

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