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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	Lennart Poettering
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	Andrew Morton
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	"Kirill A. Shutemov"
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	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH, v10 3/3] cgroups: introduce timer slack controller
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:49:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111017164929.GA18620@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1318869404.4172.67.camel@twins>

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 06:36:44PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 16:31 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 05:21:10PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > > Well what other cases are there? Can we enumerate them and come up 
> > > with similar solutions?
> > 
> > Javascript has timers. We execute rather a lot of javascript from 
> > sources we can't influence at all.
> 
> Which brings me to yet another gripe I've got with firefox, _WHY_ does
> it run javascript for tabs I can't see? Simply freeze the interpreter.

Because people expect gmail to provide them with status updates even if 
it's not the foreground tab.

> Then again, what does JavaScript do with these timers? I don't really
> see how javascript/random-native-binary are really different, something
> needs doing. What something?

I agree that the thing that needs doing probably involves web developers 
and threats of implied violence, but I suspect that web developers are 
being created faster than we can reeducate them.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-17 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-11 16:15 [PATCH, v10 0/3] Introduce timer slack controller Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-11 16:15 ` [PATCH, v10 1/3] hrtimer: introduce effective timer slack Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-11 16:15 ` [PATCH, v10 2/3] hrtimer: implement PR_GET_EFFECTIVE_TIMERSLACK Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-11 16:15 ` [PATCH, v10 3/3] cgroups: introduce timer slack controller Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found]   ` <1318349729-3108-4-git-send-email-kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-11 16:49     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-14 22:43     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20111014154348.ae6267aa.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-14 23:34         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-15 11:20       ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-15 19:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17  1:39           ` Lennart Poettering
     [not found]             ` <20111017013921.GA30035-kS5D54t9nk0aINubkmmoJbNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17  3:22               ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                 ` <20111017032232.GA4816-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17  5:21                   ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]                     ` <4E9BBB6D.4050004-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17  7:36                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17  9:38                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-17 12:46                           ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                             ` <20111017124647.GA12838-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 13:06                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:11                                 ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                   ` <20111017141147.GA14581-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 14:28                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:35                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]                                         ` <4E9C3D39.9020109-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 14:45                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:40                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 14:49                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:59                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 15:11                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 15:19                                               ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                 ` <20111017151920.GA16664-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 15:21                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 15:31                                                     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                       ` <20111017153142.GA17047-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 16:36                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 16:49                                                           ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2011-10-17 15:48                                                     ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                                       ` <20111017164839.3887ee3e-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 16:33                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 15:18                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17  7:34                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 13:55                   ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-17  7:28               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 19:46                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ

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