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From: Rich Felker <dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi-Vw/NltI1exuRpAAqCnN02g@public.gmane.org>,
	Mikael Pettersson
	<mikpelinux-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Russ Cox <rsc-iFWiy5xATs8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Taylor <iant-iFWiy5xATs8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	X86 ML <x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] __vdso_findsym
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 20:55:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140616005512.GR179@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90c597c5-f77d-491e-b0b8-dde2027155b5-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>

On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 12:14:04PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> If it doesn't, then you incur an additional indirection penalty. The
> strong __vdso symbol allows the libc wrapper to fall back to the
> vdso implementation, the weak symbol allows three to be no wrapper
> at all. This is good.

No it doesn't. The weak symbol does not implement the interface
contract of the libc function; on error it's required to set errno,
and of course the kernel/vdso cannot do this. Also, there's no way the
symbol versions the kernel provides can match up with userspace symbol
versions that consumers of the function would need. So these features
are just useless.

Rich

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-16  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-14 18:16 [RFC 0/2] __vdso_findsym Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-14 18:16 ` [RFC 1/2] uapi: Add some missing dynamic table-related definitions to elf.h Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-14 21:30 ` [RFC 0/2] __vdso_findsym Rich Felker
2014-06-14 22:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CALCETrX3Kv7VAfYau-79odKtRvME0-AzZB_xGUMPEHeas8AkaQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-14 23:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]         ` <539CDC6F.6010501-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15  3:59           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]             ` <539D1A28.7040107-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15  6:49               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found] ` <cover.1402769596.git.luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-14 18:16   ` [RFC 2/2] [NOT READY] x86/vdso: Add __vdso_findsym Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-15 14:25   ` [RFC 0/2] __vdso_findsym Mikael Pettersson
2014-06-15 14:35     ` Rich Felker
2014-06-15 15:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]       ` <20140615143500.GP179-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 17:05         ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]           ` <539DD26B.3060709-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 17:40             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]               ` <CALCETrXTpkto2gJBiFC4CR5D=Lqf2YfP5BBH02f8hFW+TUGqeA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 17:57                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15 18:20                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-15 18:39                     ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                       ` <4ab91a07-c46c-485b-895d-b074d36624d6-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 18:54                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                           ` <CALCETrV-ocpugRwL7rd4GDX-Y89L7So8_6BBjOUDeR4V8RSPEA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 19:14                             ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                               ` <90c597c5-f77d-491e-b0b8-dde2027155b5-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 19:22                                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
     [not found]                                   ` <CAKOQZ8zD7kyEmujCtTA8pm=wrM6vDJ5Yspfn1AkSydffhBus2g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 19:31                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                       ` <9a4fb9c9-4b1c-4593-a99e-a2ef2325d55d-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 19:50                                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
     [not found]                                           ` <CAKOQZ8z9r4Kw=0MNn29CMzD0-ZF=yCL2QfQp-oh==5MUcMQmuA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 19:56                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                               ` <8607961d-b42a-4dba-a736-d3a8586ee42d-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 20:53                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                               ` <CALCETrVoOS913rUo288c 6PhNtrWBZa9tSA6Ec=WUw1+SAU9ALw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                 ` <CALCETrVoOS913rUo288c6PhNtrWBZa9tSA6Ec=WUw1+SAU9ALw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 21:13                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-16  0:55                                 ` Rich Felker [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <CALCETrWLBCNiJArMRPuHbfhj6=ytnx_YqykzgCgZ+DYu34M1Mg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16  2:36                       ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                         ` <20140616023604.GI5714-1g7Xle2YJi4/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16  3:49                           ` Rich Felker
2014-06-16 14:08                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
     [not found]                           ` <CAKOQZ8wwKcDAXq0BnHwvL01LQNFeOGwgA9x8kCLWeFaP6USF4A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 14:38                             ` Andi Kleen
2014-06-16 14:58                               ` Rich Felker
2014-06-16 15:31                               ` Ian Lance Taylor
     [not found]                                 ` <CAKOQZ8zk8KfkObSZg8fmhZXm9nXQSneOywvV-NBj=N-tNWjNPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 15:42                                   ` Rich Felker
2014-06-20 15:55                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                       ` <CALCETrWnQyCk5vhDj-yAhRdAFOtFKSU6H-E_=LBC+FbA2REhrg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-20 16:07                                         ` Rich Felker
2014-06-16 14:56                             ` Rich Felker
2014-06-15 18:20                 ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                   ` <f420daee-9a06-414b-911f-5db7b7b37abe-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-15 18:22                     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                       ` <CALCETrXxG3_wxRAPF9CNk+2yv7t2Hw5Z4R-UdNKSZtU+pSe9og-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16  6:39                         ` Rich Felker
2014-06-16  1:06             ` Rich Felker

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