From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Julien Tinnes <jln@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: General flags to turn things off (getrandom, pid lookup, etc)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:15:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140725201507.GA23410@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWGvBfrX1W5XaFgJZhKHLf+oac9YrwPR3ppK=deQtu5hA@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:30:48AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> There is recent interest in having a way to turn generally-available
> kernel features off. Maybe we should add a good one so we can stop
> bikeshedding and avoid proliferating dumb interfaces.
>
> Things that might want to be turn-off-able include:
> - getrandom with GRND_RANDOM [from the getrandom threads]
> - Any lookup of a non-self pid [from the capsicum thread]
> - Any lookup of a pid outside the caller thread group [capsicum]
> - Various architectural things (personal wishlist), e.g.:
> - RDTSC and userspace HPET access
> - CPUID?
> - 32-bit GDT code segments [huge attack surface]
> - 64-bit GDT code segments [probably pointless]
I'm not sure there's value in disabling cpuid dev interface,
when the instruction is unprivileged.
> I would propose a new syscall for this:
>
> long restrict_userspace(int mode, int type, int value, int flags);
do the restrictions happen system-wide like in say SELinux,
or only within the calling process, like seccomp ?
Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-25 20:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-25 18:30 General flags to turn things off (getrandom, pid lookup, etc) Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-25 20:15 ` Dave Jones [this message]
[not found] ` <20140725201507.GA23410-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-25 20:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWGvBfrX1W5XaFgJZhKHLf+oac9YrwPR3ppK=deQtu5hA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-25 21:35 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-07-25 21:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-26 19:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-07-30 14:37 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-07-25 23:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-25 23:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-27 12:26 ` David Drysdale
2014-07-27 21:06 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-27 22:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrXfzOZEC3mOKkm3_GvitvkEu4kAa3LowRv-fjHnzrQnBg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-27 23:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-07-30 14:37 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-07-30 18:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-07-30 21:29 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-07-31 2:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
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