From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton-vpEMnDpepFuMZCB2o+C8xQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] locks: Ability to test for flock presence on fd
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:44:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140903154434.GC22731@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <540727E0.6030005-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 06:38:24PM +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> On 09/02/2014 11:53 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:43:00 -0400
> > "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:07:14PM +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> >>> On 09/02/2014 10:44 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 09:17:34PM +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There's a problem with getting information about who has a flock on
> >>>>> a specific file. The thing is that the "owner" field, that is shown in
> >>>>> /proc/locks is the pid of the task who created the flock, not the one
> >>>>> who _may_ hold it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If the flock creator shared the file with some other task (by forking
> >>>>> or via scm_rights) and then died or closed the file, the information
> >>>>> shown in proc no longer corresponds to the reality.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is critical for CRIU project, that tries to dump (and restore)
> >>>>> the state of running tasks. For example, let's take two tasks A and B
> >>>>> both opened a file "/foo", one of tasks places a LOCK_SH lock on the
> >>>>> file and then "obfuscated" the owner field in /proc/locks. After this
> >>>>> we have no ways to find out who is the lock holder.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd like to note, that for LOCK_EX this problem is not critical -- we
> >>>>> may go to both tasks and "ask" them to LOCK_EX the file again (we can
> >>>>> do it in CRIU, I can tell more if required). The one who succeeds is
> >>>>> the lock holder.
> >>>>
> >>>> It could be both, actually, right?
> >>>
> >>> Two succeeding with LOCK_EX? AFAIU no. Am I missing something?
> >>
> >> After a fork, two processes "own" the lock, right?:
> >>
> >> int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> >> {
> >> int fd, ret;
> >>
> >> fd = open(argv[1], O_RDWR);
> >> ret = flock(fd, LOCK_EX);
> >> if (ret)
> >> err(1, "flock");
> >> ret = fork();
> >> if (ret == -1)
> >> err(1, "flock");
> >> ret = flock(fd, LOCK_EX);
> >> if (ret)
> >> err(1, "flock");
> >> printf("%d got exclusive lock\n", getpid());
> >> sleep(1000);
> >> }
> >>
> >> $ touch TMP
> >> $ ./test TMP
> >> 15882 got exclusive lock
> >> 15883 got exclusive lock
> >> ^C
> >>
> >> I may misunderstand what you're doing.
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, I don't understand either.
> >
> > Flock locks are owned by the file description. The task that set
> > them is really irrelevant once they are set.
> >
> > In the second flock() call there, you're just "modifying" an existing
> > lock (which turns out to be a noop here).
> >
> > So, I don't quite understand the problem this solves. I get that you're
> > trying to reestablish the flock "state" after a checkpoint/restore
> > event, but why does it matter what task actually sets the locks as long
> > as they're set on the correct set of fds?
>
> Sorry for confusion. Let me try to explain it more clearly.
>
> First, what I meant talking about two LOCK_EX locks. Let's consider
> this scenario:
>
> pid = fork()
> fd = open("/foo"); /* both parent and child has _different_ files */
> if (pid == 0)
> /* child only */
> flock(fd, LOCK_EX);
>
> at this point we have two different files pointing to "/foo" and
> only one of them has LOCK_EX on it. So if try to LOCK_EX it again,
> only at child's file this would succeed. So we can distinguish which
> file is locked using this method.
>
>
>
> Now, what problem this patch is trying to solve. It's quite tricky,
> but still. Let's imagine this scenario:
>
> pid = fork();
> fd = open("/foo"); /* yet again -- two different files */
> if (pid == 0) {
> flock(fd, LOCK_SH);
> pid2 = fork();
> if (pid2 != 0)
> exit(0);
> }
>
> at this point we have:
>
> task A -- the original task with file "/foo" opened
> task B -- the first child, that exited at the end
> task C -- the 2nd child, that "inherited" a file with the lock from B
>
> Note, that file at A and file at C are two different files (struct
> file-s). And it's only the C's one that is locked.
>
> The problem is that the /proc/locks shows the pid of B in this lock's
> owner field. And we have no glue to find out who the real lock owner
> is using the /proc/locks.
>
> If we try to do the trickery like the one we did with LOCK_EX above,
> this is what we would get.
>
> If putting the 2nd LOCK_SH from A and from C, both attempts would succeed,
> so this is not the solution.
>
> If we try to LOCK_EX from A and C, only C would succeed, so this seem
> to be the solution, but it's actually not. If there's another pair of
> A' and C' tasks holding the same "/foo" and having the LOCK_SH on C',
> this trick would stop working as none of the tasks would be able to
> put such lock on this file.
>
>
> Thus, we need some way to find out whether a task X has a lock on file F.
> This patch is one of the ways of doing this.
>
> Hope this explanation is more clear.
Thanks, I think I understand.
Remind me how you figure out which file descriptors point to the same
file description (struct file)?
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-03 15:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-02 17:17 [PATCH] locks: Ability to test for flock presence on fd Pavel Emelyanov
2014-09-02 18:44 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-02 19:07 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <54061562.4080306-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 19:43 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20140902194300.GE31793-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 19:53 ` Jeff Layton
2014-09-03 14:38 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <540727E0.6030005-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-03 15:44 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
[not found] ` <20140903154434.GC22731-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-03 15:47 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-09-03 15:55 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20140903115504.63a7ae6f-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-03 16:00 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <54073B02.2060707-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-03 16:03 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20140903120321.604f9039-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-03 16:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-09 16:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-10 13:32 ` Jeff Layton
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