From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Erik Bosman <ebn310@few.vu.nl>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael Kerrisk-manpages <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86,seccomp,prctl: Remove PR_TSC_SIGSEGV and seccomp TSC filtering
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 10:13:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141004081324.GR10583@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVtK6w4smnRCTED=csAyt3WNNOaZE_WRzvECuSx260X3w@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 02:15:24PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 02:04:53PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> >> > Something like so.. slightly less ugly and possibly with more
> >> > complicated conditions setting the cr4 if you want to fix tsc vs seccomp
> >> > as well.
> >>
> >> This will crash anything that tries rdpmc in an allow-everything
> >> seccomp sandbox. It's also not very compatible with my grand scheme
> >> of allowing rdtsc to be turned off without breaking clock_gettime. :)
> >
> > Well, we clear cap_user_rdpmc, so everybody who still tries it gets what
> > he deserves, no problem there.
>
> Oh, interesting.
>
> To continue playing devil's advocate, what if you do perf_event_open,
> then mmap it, then start the seccomp sandbox?
We update that cap bit on every update to the self-monitor state, and in
a perfect world people would also check the cap bit every time they try
and read it, and fall back to the syscall. So we could just clear it..
but I can imagine reality ruining things here.
> My draft patches are currently tracking the number of perf_event mmaps
> per mm. I'm not thrilled with it, but it's straightforward. And I
> still need to benchmark cr4 writes, which is tedious, because I can't
> do it from user code.
Should be fairly straight fwd from kernel space, get a tsc stamp,
read+write cr4 1000 times, get another tsc read, and maybe do that
several times. No?
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[not found] ` <fc0c2447cbc39257941c6b118388c024b719353a.1412356529.git.luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 17:27 ` [PATCH] x86,seccomp,prctl: Remove PR_TSC_SIGSEGV and seccomp TSC filtering Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrUfCrvidOS6VvUpWFAcHUrPUs58zSQqGRC5UOTS=E37rw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 20:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20141003201409.GM10583-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 20:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-03 20:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWfrWpdMCAYySMAMGCHU3XRkNGmeMTECTE=PXQUfjGPZA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 20:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20141003204443.GP10583-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 20:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-03 21:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20141003210213.GG6324-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 21:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-03 21:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrW7OCuAiK31iRvXgXJfcf3FE4GKjpKQ0doWFyUpETzT9A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 21:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20141003211204.GQ10583-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 21:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-04 8:13 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-10-06 16:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrVvFP66s5XOmSKaC8Vq73=uh11819HOOLkVTu7jJZotew-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 20:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-03 20:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <20141003174141.GR2342@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20141003174141.GR2342-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 17:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-03 20:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
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