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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Baron <jbaron-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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	Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro-rfM+Q5joDG/XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] epoll: introduce round robin wakeup mode
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:38:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150225073814.GA14558@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1424805740.git.jbaron-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>


* Jason Baron <jbaron-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When we are sharing a wakeup source among multiple epoll 
> fds, we end up with thundering herd wakeups, since there 
> is currently no way to add to the wakeup source 
> exclusively. This series introduces a new EPOLL_ROTATE 
> flag to allow for round robin exclusive wakeups.
> 
> I believe this patch series addresses the two main 
> concerns that were raised in prior postings. Namely, that 
> it affected code (and potentially performance) of the 
> core kernel wakeup functions, even in cases where it was 
> not strictly needed, and that it could lead to wakeup 
> starvation (since we were are no longer waking up all 
> waiters). It does so by adding an extra layer of 
> indirection, whereby waiters are attached to a 'psuedo' 
> epoll fd, which in turn is attached directly to the 
> wakeup source.

>   sched/wait: add __wake_up_rotate()

>  include/linux/wait.h           |  1 +
>  kernel/sched/wait.c            | 27 ++++++++++++++++++++++

So the scheduler bits are looking good to me in principle, 
because they just add a new round-robin-rotating wakeup 
variant and don't disturb the others.

Is there consensus on the epoll ABI changes? With Davide 
Libenzi inactive eventpoll appears to be without a 
dedicated maintainer since 2011 or so. Is there anyone who 
knows the code and its usages in detail and does final ABI 
decisions on eventpoll - Andrew, Al or Linus?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-25  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-24 21:25 [PATCH v3 0/3] epoll: introduce round robin wakeup mode Jason Baron
2015-02-24 21:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] sched/wait: add __wake_up_rotate() Jason Baron
2015-02-24 21:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] epoll: restrict wakeups to the overflow list Jason Baron
2015-02-24 21:25 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] epoll: Add EPOLL_ROTATE mode Jason Baron
     [not found] ` <cover.1424805740.git.jbaron-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-25  7:38   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-02-25 16:27     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] epoll: introduce round robin wakeup mode Jason Baron
     [not found]       ` <54EDF7D8.60201-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 21:10         ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]           ` <20150227131034.2f2787dcabf285191a1f6ffa-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 21:31             ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found]               ` <20150227143147.07785626-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-02  5:04                 ` Jason Baron
2015-02-27 22:01           ` Jason Baron
2015-02-27 22:31             ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-05  0:02               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-05  3:53                 ` Jason Baron
2015-03-05  9:15                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                     ` <20150305091517.GA25158-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-05 20:24                       ` Jason Baron
2015-03-07 12:35                       ` Jason Baron

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