From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
Aaron Jones <aaronmdjones@gmail.com>, Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Andrew G. Morgan" <morgan@kernel.org>,
Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
Markku Savela <msa@moth.iki.fi>,
Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] capabilities: Ambient capability set V1
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:55:12 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150226205512.GA19273@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUB1bb4TiiBgdAMVtRJcEAoDzuOH+StTLPVL8QiXXdOfQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:51:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Serge E. Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 02:13:00PM -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> >> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >>
> >> > Andrew Morgan was against that. What if we changed
> >> >
> >> > pE' = pP' & (fE | pA)
> >> >
> >> > to
> >> >
> >> > if (pA)
> >> > pE' = pP' & fE
> >> > else
> >> > pE' = pP'
> >> >
> >>
> >> Same problem as before. The ambient bits will not be set in pE'.
> >
> > And what if I weren't scatterbrained and we did
> >
> > if (pA)
> > pE' = pP'
> > else
> > pE' = pP' & fE
> >
> > All pP' bits would be set in pE'.
>
> That seems reasonable to me, except for my paranoia:
>
> What if there's a program with CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE in fP and fE set to
> the empty set (i.e. the magic effective bit cleared), and the program
> relies on that. A malicious user has CAP_NET_BIND and sets pA =
> CAP_NET_BIND. Boom!
>
> If we changed that to if (pA') and zeroed pA if fP is non-empty then
> this problem goes away.
Hm, the problem is that then the empty pA is inherited by children.
I do see that any program with fP set should probably run with only
what it requested. Would
if (pA && is_empty(fP))
pE' = pP'
else
pE' = pP' & fE
help? Or are you worried about a program with fP set which then
executes other programs?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-26 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-05 21:56 [PATCH] capabilities: Ambient capability set V1 Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1502051554500.4876-gkYfJU5Cukgdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-23 14:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 15:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWJCcBBGGp21C4cdtiU79K-P3t+6rFJUWcXcLR1jqrrFQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-23 15:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 15:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-23 16:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 23:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24 15:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 16:16 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-02-23 16:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrW78805ayUL=ZYBdFwVdDvJZus2JL0VVmEBE8=L1Nm5Sw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-23 16:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-23 16:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 16:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 16:46 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-23 16:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 18:15 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-02-23 18:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-24 5:19 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20150224051928.GA14755-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-24 15:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-24 15:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-24 16:44 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-02-24 17:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-25 3:32 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-02-25 20:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 15:35 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20150226153524.GC15182-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-26 18:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 19:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 19:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWpKiurZEEOT25i_xrtQyk5dht+wjUO4+tGs+N_7JCdYA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-26 20:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 20:33 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20150226193200.GA17709-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-26 20:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 20:34 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 20:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-26 20:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
[not found] ` <20150226205512.GA19273-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-26 20:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-26 21:19 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 21:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 21:09 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1502261507450.8274-gkYfJU5Cukgdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-26 21:13 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 21:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 21:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 21:37 ` Christoph Lameter
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