From: Josh Triplett <josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
Andrew Morton
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Kees Cook <keescook-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Thiago Macieira
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linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] CLONE_FD: Task exit notification via file descriptor
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 19:19:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150409021948.GA1027@jtriplet-mobl1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150401092420.4c1dbb6e-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:24:20AM +0200, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:02:24 -0700
> josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
> > > This would appear to assume that a clonefd_info structure is the only
> > > thing that will ever be read from this descriptor. It seems to me that
> > > there is the potential for, someday, wanting to be able to read and write
> > > other things as well. Should this structure be marked with type and
> > > length fields so that other structures could be added in the future?
> >
> > I don't think it makes sense for a caller to get an arbitrary structure
> > on read(), and have to figure out what they got and ignore something
> > they don't understand. Instead, I think it makes more sense for the
> > caller to say "Hey, here's a flag saying I understand the new thing, go
> > ahead and give me the new thing". So, for instance, if you want to
> > receive SIGSTOP/SIGCONT messages for child processes through this
> > descriptor, we could add a flag for that.
>
> The flag is fine, but, once we have set that flag saying we want those
> messages, how do we know which type of structure we've gotten? That's
> the piece of the puzzle I'm missing, sorry if I'm being overly slow.
If you pass a flag saying you can handle a new set of potential
structures, those structures can then include any necessary
disambiguating flags/IDs/etc. No need for them to match the current
clonefd_info structure if userspace has opted into a new version.
- Josh Triplett
prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-09 2:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-15 7:59 [PATCH v2 0/7] CLONE_FD: Task exit notification via file descriptor Josh Triplett
2015-03-15 7:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] clone: Support passing tls argument via C rather than pt_regs magic Josh Triplett
[not found] ` <cover.1426376419.git.josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-15 7:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] x86: Opt into HAVE_COPY_THREAD_TLS, for both 32-bit and 64-bit Josh Triplett
2015-03-15 8:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] CLONE_FD: Task exit notification via file descriptor Josh Triplett
2015-05-29 7:43 ` Florian Weimer
2015-05-29 20:27 ` Thiago Macieira
2015-06-15 10:06 ` Florian Weimer
2015-03-15 7:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] Introduce a new clone4 syscall with more flag bits and extensible arguments Josh Triplett
[not found] ` <367b888ef58831b6812c3cf80ca973c65edc67f5.1426376419.git.josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-23 14:11 ` David Drysdale
2015-03-23 15:05 ` josh
2015-03-31 14:41 ` David Drysdale
2015-03-15 7:59 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] kernel/fork.c: Pass arguments to _do_fork and copy_process using clone4_args Josh Triplett
2015-03-15 8:00 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] clone4: Add a CLONE_AUTOREAP flag to automatically reap the child process Josh Triplett
[not found] ` <6d002995485d446e659105f6931307f3e532ce89.1426376419.git.josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-15 14:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20150315145223.GA21887-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-15 17:18 ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-15 19:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20150315195506.GA29475-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-15 23:34 ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-20 18:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-20 18:46 ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-20 19:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-03-20 21:10 ` josh
2015-03-15 8:00 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] signal: Factor out a helper function to process task_struct exit_code Josh Triplett
2015-03-15 8:00 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] clone4: Add a CLONE_FD flag to get task exit notification via fd Josh Triplett
2015-03-23 17:38 ` David Drysdale
2015-03-25 14:53 ` Josh Triplett
[not found] ` <fdec4b70c7cd34e2eacf6a0e41d36f606a696da1.1426376419.git.josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-06 8:30 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-04-06 9:31 ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-15 8:00 ` [PATCH v2 man-pages] clone4.2: New manpage documenting clone4(2) Josh Triplett
2015-03-16 21:44 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] CLONE_FD: Task exit notification via file descriptor Kees Cook
[not found] ` <CAGXu5jLmLLgVNCP=cyUiXuiszVXsS88SNUK2iBqArbA2V6vdHA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-16 22:14 ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-16 22:36 ` Kees Cook
[not found] ` <CAGXu5jJr_DieZ281=H0ZNtNvOagO0pm8PRfNvRWKp4YwS=55GA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-16 22:50 ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-16 23:26 ` Kees Cook
2015-03-16 23:35 ` josh
2015-03-16 23:29 ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-03-17 0:49 ` Thiago Macieira
2015-03-23 14:12 ` David Drysdale
2015-03-23 15:03 ` josh
2015-03-16 23:25 ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-03-31 20:08 ` Jonathan Corbet
2015-03-31 22:02 ` josh
2015-04-01 7:24 ` Jonathan Corbet
[not found] ` <20150401092420.4c1dbb6e-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-09 2:19 ` Josh Triplett [this message]
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