From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Shuah Khan <shuahkh@osg.samsung.com>,
linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 15:58:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150513135805.GA17708@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150508200610.GB29933@akamai.com>
On Fri 08-05-15 16:06:10, Eric B Munson wrote:
> On Fri, 08 May 2015, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 8 May 2015 15:33:43 -0400 Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com> wrote:
> >
> > > mlock() allows a user to control page out of program memory, but this
> > > comes at the cost of faulting in the entire mapping when it is
> > > allocated. For large mappings where the entire area is not necessary
> > > this is not ideal.
> > >
> > > This series introduces new flags for mmap() and mlockall() that allow a
> > > user to specify that the covered are should not be paged out, but only
> > > after the memory has been used the first time.
> >
> > Please tell us much much more about the value of these changes: the use
> > cases, the behavioural improvements and performance results which the
> > patchset brings to those use cases, etc.
> >
>
> The primary use case is for mmaping large files read only. The process
> knows that some of the data is necessary, but it is unlikely that the
> entire file will be needed. The developer only wants to pay the cost to
> read the data in once. Unfortunately developer must choose between
> allowing the kernel to page in the memory as needed and guaranteeing
> that the data will only be read from disk once. The first option runs
> the risk of having the memory reclaimed if the system is under memory
> pressure, the second forces the memory usage and startup delay when
> faulting in the entire file.
Is there any reason you cannot do this from the userspace? Start by
mmap(PROT_NONE) and do mmap(MAP_FIXED|MAP_LOCKED|MAP_READ|other_flags_you_need)
from the SIGSEGV handler?
You can generate a lot of vmas that way but you can mitigate that to a
certain level by mapping larger than PAGE_SIZE chunks in the fault
handler. Would that work in your usecase?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-13 13:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-08 19:33 [PATCH 0/3] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault Eric B Munson
2015-05-08 19:33 ` [PATCH 1/3] Add flag to request pages are locked after " Eric B Munson
2015-05-08 19:33 ` [PATCH 2/3] Add mlockall flag for locking pages on fault Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <1431113626-19153-1-git-send-email-emunson-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-08 19:33 ` [PATCH 3/3] Add tests for lock " Eric B Munson
2015-05-08 19:42 ` [PATCH 0/3] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20150508124203.6679b1d35ad9555425003929-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-08 20:06 ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-08 20:15 ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-11 14:36 ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-11 19:12 ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-11 21:05 ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-13 13:58 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-05-13 14:14 ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-11 18:06 ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-13 15:00 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150513150036.GG1227-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 8:08 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20150514080812.GC6433-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 13:58 ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-15 15:35 ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-19 20:30 ` Eric B Munson
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