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From: "Ondřej Bílka" <neleai-9Vj9tDbzfuSlVyrhU4qvOw@public.gmane.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers
	<mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ben Maurer <bmaurer-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Hunter <ahh-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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	Josh Triplett <josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
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	Andrew Morton
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	libc-alpha-9JcytcrH/bA+uJoB2kUjGw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] getcpu_cache system call: caching current CPU number (x86)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 12:58:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150717105859.GB21915@domone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <587954201.31.1436808992876.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 05:36:32PM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> ----- On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Ben Maurer bmaurer-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org wrote:
> 
> > At Facebook we already use getcpu in folly, our base C++ library, to provide
> > high performance concurrency algorithms. Folly includes an abstraction called
> > AccessSpreader which helps engineers write abstractions which shard themselves
> > across different cores to prevent cache contention
> > (https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/master/folly/detail/CacheLocality.cpp).

Could you contribute your improvements/tips to libc? If these help for
c++ mutex then it would also improve c mutex.

> > We have used this primative to create faster reader writer locks
> > (https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/master/folly/SharedMutex.h), as well as
> > in an abstraction that powers workqueues
> > (https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/master/folly/IndexedMemPool.h). This
> > would be a great perf improvement for these types of abstractions and probably
> > encourage us to use the idea more widely.
> > 
As libc rwlocks now are slow it gets speedup from that. Main problem
with this is that lock elission will give you bigger speedups that that.

Also from description you have wrong rwlock usecase, main application is
avoid blocking, when two readers take lock for long time having one wait
would be terrible.

> > One quick comment on the approach -- it'd be really great if we had a method
> > that didn't require users to register each thread. This can often lead to
> > requiring an additional branch in critical code to check if the appropriate
> > caches have been initialized. Also, one of the most interesting potential
> > applications of the restartable sequences concept is in malloc. having a brief
> > period at the beginning of the life of a thread where malloc didn't work would
> > be pretty tricky to program around.
> 
> If we invoke this per-thread registration directly in the glibc NPTL implementation,
> in start_thread, do you think it would fit your requirements ?
>
A generic solution would be adding eager initialization of thread_local
variables which would fix more performance problems.

Second would be write patch to libc adding function
pthread_create_add_hook_np to register function that would be ran after
each thread cretion.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-17 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-12 18:06 [RFC PATCH] getcpu_cache system call: caching current CPU number (x86) Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found] ` <1436724386-30909-1-git-send-email-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-12 18:47   ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-13  3:40     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-13 15:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-13  3:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CALCETrV1suAbvMgD1jOEFyn3JcDE_hhi6X7+sGs9e3Oqw_6jUw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 15:27       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]         ` <1050138282.1065.1436801252018.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 15:30           ` Andrew Hunter
     [not found]             ` <CADroS=7MnUULrjDeQtmscxjkpjCtti9V-HfFXU0sjKhi6PsaAg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 16:07               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-13 18:36           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-13 11:17   ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]     ` <5CDDBDF2D36D9F43B9F5E99003F6A0D48D5F39C6-f8hGUhss0nh9TZdEUguypQ2O0Ztt9esIQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 17:36       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-14  9:34         ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]           ` <5CDDBDF2D36D9F43B9F5E99003F6A0D48D5F5DA0-f8hGUhss0nh9TZdEUguypQ2O0Ztt9esIQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16 18:08             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]               ` <549319255.383.1437070088597.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16 19:27                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 10:21                   ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-17 15:53                     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrWEKE=mow3vVh7C4r8CuGy_d5VOEz7KkpijuR5cpBfFtg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17 18:48                     ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                       ` <CA+55aFz-VBnEKh0SPKgu8xV5=Zb+=6odybVUDoOYOknshbcFJA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17 18:55                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                           ` <CALCETrVNcLpZVATHOs-gZR9AMUSW_ScvXW_0oY=OnFHXXHLdaA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17 19:11                             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-17 23:28                       ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-17 23:33                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-18 10:35                           ` Ondřej Bílka
     [not found]                           ` <CALCETrVY=kjeA_4pazy3BL+ekfcV6WHKw8e3z-LBxx_uP1bw2Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20  8:35                             ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                               ` <55ACB2DC.5010503-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20 15:31                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                   ` <CALCETrV9Vp5UUOb3e_R5tphyE-urBgTwQR2pFWUOOFnHqWXHKQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20 15:32                                     ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                       ` <55AD14A4.6030101-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20 17:41                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                           ` <CALCETrUx6wFxmz+9TyW5bNgaMN0q180G8y9YOyq_D41sdhFaRQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20 20:07                                             ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-07-21  7:55                                               ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                           ` <CA+55aFzMJkzydXb7uVv1iSUnp=539d43ghQaonGdzMoF7QLZBA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                             ` <CA+55aFzMJkzydXb7uVv1iSUnp=539d43ghQaonGdzMoF7QLZBA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20 21:09                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-20 22:39                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                                   ` <CA+55aFwLZLeeN7UN82dyt=emQcNBc8qZPJAw5iqtAbBwFA7FPQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21  0:25                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                                       ` <2010227315.699.1437438300542.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21  7:30                                                         ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21 12:58                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                                             ` <894137397.137.1437483493715.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21 15:16                                                               ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21 17:45                                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                                                   ` <1350114812.1035.1437500726799.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21 18:00                                                                     ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21 18:18                                                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                                                         ` <2028561497.1088.1437502683664.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22  7:53                                                                           ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21  8:01                                                         ` Florian Weimer
2015-07-20 13:18                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-07-18  7:34                         ` Rich Felker
     [not found]                           ` <20150718073433.GH1173-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-18 10:51                             ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-18  9:47               ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]         ` <587954201.31.1436808992876.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17 10:58           ` Ondřej Bílka [this message]
2015-07-17 16:03             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]               ` <626545401.1010.1437149010438.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17 22:43                 ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-18  2:43                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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