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From: "Ondřej Bílka" <neleai-9Vj9tDbzfuSlVyrhU4qvOw@public.gmane.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers
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Cc: Linus Torvalds
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	Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
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	Florian Weimer <fweimer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>,
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	Paul Turner <pjt-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Hunter <ahh-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] getcpu_cache system call: caching current CPU number (x86)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:30:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150721073053.GA14716@domone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2010227315.699.1437438300542.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:25:00AM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> >> Does it solve the Wine problem?  If Wine uses gs for something and
> >> calls a function that does this, Wine still goes boom, right?
> > 
> > So the advantage of just making a global segment descriptor available
> > is that it's not *that* expensive to just save/restore segments. So
> > either wine could do it, or any library users would do it.
> > 
> > But anyway, I'm not sure this is a good idea. The advantage of it is
> > that the kernel support really is _very_ minimal.
> 
> Considering that we'd at least also want this feature on ARM and
> PowerPC 32/64, and that the gs segment selector approach clashes with
> existing apps (wine), I'm not sure that implementing a gs segment
> selector based approach to cpu number caching would lead to an overall
> decrease in complexity if it leads to performance similar to those of
> portable approaches.
> 
> I'm perfectly fine with architecture-specific tweaks that lead to
> fast-path speedups, but if we have to bite the bullet and implement
> an approach based on TLS and registering a memory area at thread start
> through a system call on other architectures anyway, it might end up
> being less complex to add a new system call on x86 too, especially if
> fast path overhead is similar.
> 
> But I'm inclined to think that some aspect of the question eludes me,
> especially given the amount of interest generated by the gs-segment
> selector approach. What am I missing ?
> 
As I wrote before you don't have to bite bullet as I said before. It
suffices to create 128k element array with cpu for each tid, make that
mmapable file and userspace could get cpu with nearly same performance
without hacks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-21  7:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-12 18:06 [RFC PATCH] getcpu_cache system call: caching current CPU number (x86) Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found] ` <1436724386-30909-1-git-send-email-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-12 18:47   ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-13  3:40     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-13 15:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-13  3:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CALCETrV1suAbvMgD1jOEFyn3JcDE_hhi6X7+sGs9e3Oqw_6jUw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 15:27       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]         ` <1050138282.1065.1436801252018.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 15:30           ` Andrew Hunter
     [not found]             ` <CADroS=7MnUULrjDeQtmscxjkpjCtti9V-HfFXU0sjKhi6PsaAg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 16:07               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-13 18:36           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-13 11:17   ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]     ` <5CDDBDF2D36D9F43B9F5E99003F6A0D48D5F39C6-f8hGUhss0nh9TZdEUguypQ2O0Ztt9esIQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 17:36       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-14  9:34         ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]           ` <5CDDBDF2D36D9F43B9F5E99003F6A0D48D5F5DA0-f8hGUhss0nh9TZdEUguypQ2O0Ztt9esIQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16 18:08             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]               ` <549319255.383.1437070088597.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16 19:27                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 10:21                   ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-17 15:53                     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrWEKE=mow3vVh7C4r8CuGy_d5VOEz7KkpijuR5cpBfFtg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17 18:48                     ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                       ` <CA+55aFz-VBnEKh0SPKgu8xV5=Zb+=6odybVUDoOYOknshbcFJA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17 18:55                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                           ` <CALCETrVNcLpZVATHOs-gZR9AMUSW_ScvXW_0oY=OnFHXXHLdaA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17 19:11                             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-17 23:28                       ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-17 23:33                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-18 10:35                           ` Ondřej Bílka
     [not found]                           ` <CALCETrVY=kjeA_4pazy3BL+ekfcV6WHKw8e3z-LBxx_uP1bw2Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20  8:35                             ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                               ` <55ACB2DC.5010503-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20 15:31                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                   ` <CALCETrV9Vp5UUOb3e_R5tphyE-urBgTwQR2pFWUOOFnHqWXHKQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20 15:32                                     ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                       ` <55AD14A4.6030101-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20 17:41                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                           ` <CALCETrUx6wFxmz+9TyW5bNgaMN0q180G8y9YOyq_D41sdhFaRQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20 20:07                                             ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-07-21  7:55                                               ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                                           ` <CA+55aFzMJkzydXb7uVv1iSUnp=539d43ghQaonGdzMoF7QLZBA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                             ` <CA+55aFzMJkzydXb7uVv1iSUnp=539d43ghQaonGdzMoF7QLZBA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-20 21:09                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-20 22:39                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                                   ` <CA+55aFwLZLeeN7UN82dyt=emQcNBc8qZPJAw5iqtAbBwFA7FPQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21  0:25                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                                       ` <2010227315.699.1437438300542.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21  7:30                                                         ` Ondřej Bílka [this message]
2015-07-21 12:58                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                                             ` <894137397.137.1437483493715.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21 15:16                                                               ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21 17:45                                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                                                   ` <1350114812.1035.1437500726799.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21 18:00                                                                     ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21 18:18                                                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                                                         ` <2028561497.1088.1437502683664.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22  7:53                                                                           ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21  8:01                                                         ` Florian Weimer
2015-07-20 13:18                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-07-18  7:34                         ` Rich Felker
     [not found]                           ` <20150718073433.GH1173-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-18 10:51                             ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-18  9:47               ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]         ` <587954201.31.1436808992876.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17 10:58           ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-17 16:03             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]               ` <626545401.1010.1437149010438.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17 22:43                 ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-18  2:43                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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